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Question about Daytime Running Lights and Driving Test

  • 09-04-2024 05:34PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 efoley


    Hello, One of my Daytime Running Lights is not working (152 car). Will this be a problem for the driving test? All other lights in perfect working order. Thank you.



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,272 ✭✭✭kirving


    Good question - I can't seem to find anything on the RSA website specifically referring to DRL's or Headlights - just Brake and Indicator lights.

    Not mentioning DRLs or lights on the test, giving how confusing some cars can be in this regard, a fairly major gap in my personal opinion, but I think you'll be fine. Good luck in the test!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    DRLs have been mandatory in Ireland since 2014. They're also an NCT fail if they're not working. I'd err on the side of caution and get it fixed if you can in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,272 ✭✭✭kirving


    The test manual just says that the car must have a valid NCT though, and doesn't mention headlights/taillights as far as I can see.

    But yeah, ideally it's sorted if the OP has enough time, but on balance if the OP's test is tomorrow I wouldn't go cancelling it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Yeah, the car has to be safe for the test. That's why they also check brake lights and indicators, because the NCT is just a snapshot. Do they want to check DRLs as well for the same reason? They being now compulsory.

    If there's no time, so be it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭djan


    If unable to get it sorted, set the light manually to dipped being always on so less chance of it being noticed when doing the walk around.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,750 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Isn't DRL and 'dipped being always on' the same thing? So if OP has a faulty/busted bulb, your suggestion won't affect anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭djan


    Can only speak for the cars I've had but they functioned the same with DRLs only coming on if lights were set to Auto and it was bright enough. If set to manually on, dipped lights would come on regardless of external conditions. In my case the DRLs were separate lights usually LEDs and dips were halogen or xenons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭WildWater


    There is a tale, somewhere in the bowels of this forum, of a tester refusing to do a test because the green line on the insurance cert wasn't green enough due to fading.

    If at all possible, I'd be getting it sorted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭GTTDI GOD


    As long as your brake lights and indicators are working correctly, you’ll be fine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭GTTDI GOD


    I’m a driving instructor, the only lights they check is the indicators and brakes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 efoley


    Hi all, thanks sincerely for the replies. We did get the DRL replaced and my son passed the test. Would love to know what would have happened otherwise, but the more I looked at the DRL the more obvious it was, so I erred on the safe side. Thanks a million for the advice here.



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Mitchell Purring Matte


    They’re not mandatory for drivers only car manufacturers. I did my test in a 2012 Auris that didn’t have DRL’s and it didn’t matter at all, I always put dipped headlights on if in a car that doesn’t have them myself though.

    DRL’s are also not part of the lights you must have on your car (such as indicators, front and rear lights, brake lights and at least one white reversing light and reflectors). So working or not shouldn’t affect a driving test.

    They’re a modern invention to improve road safety but they are not mandatory for all cars and only cars manufactured and registered post 2014 must have them. I don’t know if it’s as simple as this but I imagine you could pull the fuse out if one was not working correctly just to avoid any potential issues with the test.



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Mitchell Purring Matte


    but that’s because it is illegal to drive your car without a correctly displayed disc. The green strip fading from the sun is technically (even if it’s stupid) illegal.

    Broken DRL’s are not. Manufacturing a car now without DRL’s is illegal. Driving one is not illegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Yes, I know. Which is why I said 'now'. I probably should have added "for cars manufactured from 2014 onwards" to satisfy the pedants.



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Mitchell Purring Matte


    I’m not being pedantic, you said the tester may not conduct a test because they are mandatory lighting on 2014+ cars but that’s not the case. In fact the only mandatory lighting a car must have is

    Front and rear lights, brake lights, reversing lights front, rear & side indicators and rear reflectors. If the roads were policed correctly you’d be pulled over for a missing headlight but not DRL.

    It’s like refusing someone a driving test because the car wasn’t fitted with fog lights. Your argument is the lights are compulsory/mandatory, which is only true for manufacturers. They are not compulsory for drivers. I could go disconnect my DRL’s right now and no one can do anything about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    you said the tester may not conduct a test because they are mandatory lighting on 2014+ cars

    You might want to read my post again. Because I didn't say that. I asked the question, I didn't make a statement other than them being compulsory on cars now and being an NCT fail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,889 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,213 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    For an NCT, not for a driving test

    In our Leaf, the DRLs are the front fog lights, and the dipped headlights automatically come on when it gets to dusk

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,889 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    That's right but you sign saying the car is roadworthy and if it's got a clear NCT failure fault where are you.

    I wouldn't chance it.



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