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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • #10652
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027102#Comment_122027102

    He said WSJ was lying without any clarification and posted a release date for the Robotaxi without any mention of the Model 2 (or whatever it'll be called)

    Also the people working on the project have been moved to the Robotaxi. So no-one is working on the cheaper model

    Yes they apparently share the same platform but even so it'll take a year or so to develop. And if the Robotaxi has to come first then it'll delay the Model 2 with every setback

    Now I was never really convinced about the cheaper Tesla anyway. Boring cheapmobiles don't really fit the company image anyway. I always reckoned it would end up as more of a hot hatch with a heftier price tag

    But a cheaper hatchback would sell very well in Europe and China, so I can't understand the logic in delaying it

    I assume this is Elon trying to recapture the image of Tesla as a tech company that makes cars as a side business. Just not sure it'll wash this time

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #10653
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027366#Comment_122027366

    I remember driving 9 hours across the UK a couple of years ago, had to stop twice to charge

    Honestly I needed those stops, it was my first time doing that length of time in a day and the 20 mins to rest my eyes helped a lot

    And that was with Travel Assist doing half the work, I just had to keep an eye to make sure there were no hazards

    If I'd had a diesel with 1200km of range I might have tried to push on, but I'd have been worse off for it

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #10654
    Buddy Bubs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I do 2 to 2.5 hour motorway speed journeys quite often for work

    Dublin to Antrim, Cork and Limerick

    Usually return on same day. I've destination charging in 2 of them now. 1 I don't and I charge on return trip.

    I don't stop for the sake of it but anything over 2 hours I'm kinda done with driving at that stage. Had enough glad to be getting out.



  • #10655
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027310#Comment_122027310

    A bit of a sweeping statement there? What do you mean by hundreds of km? 200, 300, 400, etc. Tbh I've never in 30 years of driving I've never taken a break after 200kms or 300 or 400. Reading your post Im lucky to be relatively anonymous on Boards



  • #10656
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122021481#Comment_122021481

    Like most modern EV’s. Enjoy the trip.



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  • #10657
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,638 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027711#Comment_122027711

    It's more of a long distance driving thing, as in 1000km in a day or so with just one driver. Most people would be fine and perfectly safe doing a one off drive of 300-400km without stopping. But 1000km with just 2 stops (333km per drive) would be totally irresponsible. And we are talking private cars here doing (near) the 120km/h speed limit, not professional truck drivers doing just 80-90km/h

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  • #10658
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027711#Comment_122027711

    Does it matter? 200 Kms driving, if you exclude motorways, is at least 3 hours driving.

    If you drive a steady 400 Kms without stopping I'd advise you to be very careful. That's anywhere from 4 to 6 hours solid behind the wheel. Without a single stop?

    My father drove trucks in the 70's all over England. He rarely stopped and used to live on flasks of coffee and caffeine tablets. He says looking back and it was lucky he never killed someone or killed himself.

    So you've driven over 30 years covering up to 400kms without stopping? That's not healthy or safe.



  • #10659
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122027753#Comment_122027753

    Agree 1,000 km in a day without a decent break is risky driving and to be avoided. I've done approx 700km a day on many occasions, normally 4hr driving, 4hr break and 4hr driving. Never really had a issue with tiredness unless had a late night before. However everyone is different and should do whatever they feel happy with



  • #10660
    creedp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭creedp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122028192#Comment_122028192

    Not sure what point you're trying to make in last paragraph. I've been driving for approx 30 years and have never felt the need to stop (OK once or twice having been out socialising the night before) during a journey, be it 50km, 100km, 300km or whatever.

    Before motorways came on the scene a regular 300km journey used take up to 5 hours, whereas now (due to moving house), it's a 350km journey and only takes just shy of 4 hours. Personally I love doing that drive, lash up the stereo and keep on going until destination is reached. However, if you are more comfortable stopping every 200km, that's absolutely no issue but maybe it's not necessary to be calling those who don't follow your routines idots

    Not sure what distances your father was doing but I'd respectively suggest he might certainly be a risk on the road if he required caffeine tablets to stay awake/alert while driving an artic, irrespective of the fact it was only travelling at 90kph



  • #10661
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122028334#Comment_122028334

    As I said in my post, my dad wondered how he never killed himself or anyone else by driving ridiculously long journeys without stopping.

    I stand by my comment, that personally I believe that it's idiotic to drive hundreds of kms without taking a break. It's not safe. You can dress it up any way you like but after 2 or 3 hours solid driving, you should seriously be thinking of pulling over. Even if it's just for 5 or 10 minutes to stretch your legs and have a reset before resuming your journey.

    That 5 or 10 minutes won't kill you, but it might save your life or somebody else's.



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  • #10662
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    In the summer in Europe, we'd do 900km+ on a few days, occasionally back to back. Everyone doing their job, driver driving, co driver looking after everything else. Yes, we'd take regular breaks, even when in the diesel, but those breaks could be up to 4 hours apart, especially if passengers are asleep and you want to let them sleep as long as possible without waking them up.

    European motorways with cruise control is low stress in many countries, although I'd stop a little more frequently in UK, Germany and Italy.

    In Ireland we don't drive much, at the weekend we've got a regular 400km trip that I'd usually be more relaxed coming back from, than when I'm leaving. I love driving, it's mentally stimulating, just getting out, being able to leave work and house stuff behind. I know I'm lucky to feel this way about driving, but I'd thought there would be others who feel similarly?



  • #10663
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Likewise I've often done over 1000km in a day on the continent. But I'd take regular breaks every couple of hours or so because it's nice to get out of the car for a bit, have a cup of coffee and a chat or lunch and get back in the car refreshed for another burst. Tiredness sneaks up on you. And it's when something goes wrong that you can suffer the consequences. An old friend of mine used to say "better to be late than dead on time".



  • #10664
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,704 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122028413#Comment_122028413

    I absolutely love driving, I get in the car some evenings and just go for a spin. I do recognise when I feel fatigued and need to stop. 2 hours is my limit, I appreciate this might not be the same for everyone.



  • #10665
    prosaic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 277 ✭✭prosaic


    People are wired differently. I can drive longish distances in quite a relaxed state, but still with good reflex. My OH finds it more stressful and needs more breaks. I have tendency to be focused on one task, ignoring other inputs, while OH is more broadly attentive. Different aptitudes I guess.



  • #10666
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122028457#Comment_122028457

    I enjoy going for a spin, but much prefer interesting roads than munching motorway miles. I'm doing a trip to Sheffield tomorrow morning, most of it will be boring roads, the Snake pass part is engaging.



  • #10667
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    When I did the Euro road trip 2 years ago we drove from Cherbourg to Kiel (1,294km) over 2 days stopping in Maastricht overnight, so 1st leg was 692km, and it was mostly fine with charging stops in Caen, Rouen & Valenciennes (as well as a top up into a hot battery in Maastricht when we arrived for the night), but the last 100-150km I probably started to feel it a bit and was glad to know the destination was approaching.. but certainly wasn't shattered and desperate for a stop. AutoPilot & AutoSteer in the Tesla made a huge difference in my opinion (as well as a tuned in co-pilot when she needed to be).. has to be mentioned too when we got off the ferry in France it was 40 degrees, and remained so for pretty much most of the day… so after the 1st charging stop in Caen, the car didn't even pre-condition for any charges for the rest of the day, and it still pulled the full 170kW every time!! bonus too that I had a sh1t ton of free Supercharging back then, so at every stop, the AC was left on full blast which made getting back into the car a very nice thing to do… each stop was about 20-30 mins.

    The 602km the following day mostly through Germany to Kiel had 3 charging stops along the way (Moers, Lohne & Neumunster), and like the day before, all were very welcome and kept us all fresh for the next leg… (it's fun watching how quick the % drops though when cruising at 180km/h). By the time we got to Kiel we were fresh as daisies as the last charging stop in Neumunster we went to 100% on the Supercharger and grabbed a proper bite to eat as its a shopping centre with a few places to eat…

    The return leg a few weeks later was 1,322km and done over 3 days… 448km from Kiel to Recklinghausen, then 610km to Rouen, and finally 264km back to Cherbourg… the middle leg was a bit of a ball ache as it was still hot (30+ degrees), sun in the face for most of the day and traffic was sh1te…

    I honestly can't wait to do it again…. though I've a better route planned next time.



  • #10668
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,360 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I think many people over estimate how engaged they really are for 4 hours doing 1 thing.

    Cars by their very nature can give a really false sense of security. 4 hours driving is enough for anyone your brain needs to do something else for a bit. That's life. You're not wired differently you're ignoring the dangers and signs.



  • #10669
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,109 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122034136#Comment_122034136

    Indeed. I've lost count of the amount of times I've driven 4+ hours in a row, and thought I was fine - especially with autopilot - only to come home and fall asleep with a cup of tea in front of the TV



  • #10670
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    at every stop, the AC was left on full blast which made getting back into the car a very nice thing to do… each stop was about 20-30 mins.

    that there is accidentally the best advertisement for Evs I have ever heard !!

    When we drive to italy, the second you turn off the AC the car turns into a furnace. We'd often take it in turns to go to the toilet during a stop to keep the engine and the AC running.



  • #10671
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122034187#Comment_122034187

    it really was a fantastic feature…. Felt like getting into a fridge every time!!!
    40 degrees was just ridiculous… think at one point it touched 41 or 42…

    IMG_8383.jpeg


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  • #10672
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122034361#Comment_122034361

    slight tangent, whats the traffic like from Cherbourg to Amiens during the summer? I only ever do that in Autumn/ Winter when the roads are quiet, and you stay in your car during breaks to avoid the cold or wind or rain, not the heat.



  • #10673
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122034187#Comment_122034187

    Well spotted, never occurred to me. But it's so true. And so nice.



  • #10674
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    can't remember it being too bad on that run… maybe a little big congested at some of the big junctions..

    We actually didn't go past Le Havre on the outward leg as shown in that pic as shortly after that photo was taken the car re-routed us to the Rouen Supercharger as it was less busy than the Amiens one..



  • #10675
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yet more pressure on charging providers to lower prices or offer better deals

    https://www.electrive.com/2024/04/18/tesla-lowers-basic-charging-fee-for-3rd-party-vehicles-at-superchargers/

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #10676
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122034361#Comment_122034361

    We have a dog and she's always happy to stay behind in the cool car. The temparatures also hit 38 degrees in Germany last summer, and after the initial exitement of a lunch out in the sun had worn out, we also were quite happy stepping in the cool car to continue our journey.

    I don't know what it is with the Autobahn but I always seem to get great efficiency on them. Probably the wind tunnel effect of the other traffic and the warm temperatures in summer. The Model 3 LR seem to sit at 15X Wh/km even when driven properly briskly when the traffic allows it. The usable range is therefore much better than I expected.



  • #10677
    innrain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    This morning during the school run I got a call and concluded that I have to drive to Thurles. With the 2021 3LR at 90% started at 9:00 from around Sandyford and conscious that I have a meeting at 12:00 in Glasnevin I drove at 122/102 km/h depending on to speed limits at minimum. I stopped in Thurles for 2 minutes and turned back with the same settings. I arrived 1 minute late for the meeting with the car at 15%. Around 320 -340 km in 3h with 75% battery, no tired but I needed to take a leak from the first leg. The consumption was below 16kwh/100km which is pretty nice. I'll take a picture later. Again due to time constraint I had to push forward but normally I would have stopped for that relief.



  • #10678
    Comer1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭Comer1


    Anybody recommend/link a more suitable outdoor socket for granny charging? Thanks

    20240418_185254.jpg


  • #10679
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122035741#Comment_122035741

    I presume your problem is that the cover won't close due to the thickness of the cable. I have a similar outdoor socket although it's a double and has a built-in RCD. I had the same problem, but it's easily fixed. If you take out the rubber seal at the bottom, you can carve out the plastic bit above it with a sharp knife so that the cable fits in. Then replace the rubber seal and it will close fine. The bottom plastic bit didn't seem to cause me a problem, so I left it as is. Yours might need a bit of carving, but maybe not.

    Edit: looking at yours again, it seems the off centre arrangement doesn't work with your plug. Maybe have a look at the doubles, I think they are better centred.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006GAETZU?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1


  • #10680
    innrain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    It appears Tritium applied for insolvency. That's going to be a nightmare for EasyGo at least on short term

    https://thedriven.io/2024/04/19/australia-ev-fast-charging-tritium-says-it-is-insolvent-appoints-administrators/



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  • #10681
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122036966#Comment_122036966

    I know several major CPOs were using their equipment, so I wonder will they step in with a rescue deal

    The likes of Ionity or Fastned might want to replicate Tesla by developing their own equipment and buying an equipment provider would be a way to jumpstart that process

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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