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Thoughts on house types

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  • 16-04-2024 11:07pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    We're looking into buying a semi detached new build, however there are 2 types of semi detached houses (Types D and E) and we're not sure which one to go for, therefore it will be great to get your thoughts on which one is the best.

    We're thinking about going for House type D mostly because the 3rd bedroom is larger, however we're not really sure as house type E appears to be longer and has more overall space.

    Also the front of the houses appears to be different but I'm not sure if it will make any difference internally. It appears that the front windows will be standing out in Type D (by 0.657m) which appears to be wasted space?

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks!



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    D all the way. You'll be spending a lot of time in the living room, and the proportions are much better than E, which is only 3.3m wide. Too narrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭89897


    D for sure, Bigger 3rd bedroom, bigger utility and bigger lounge, which is not as narrow. The utility being bigger for me is what would sell it. They fill up super quick.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,165 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    The overall size of type E is a tiny bit bigger (111.9 sq m as opposed to 111.5 sq m) but type E is longer and narrower than type D. Generally the nearer to square a house is, the more flexible you can be with the use of the interior space, and so the more efficiently you can use it. And so it is here; I haven't measured it, but Type E seems to devote a greater proportion of the interior space to hallway, stairs, landing and correspondingly less to usable rooms. And, again, the rooms themselves tend to be a bit longer and narrower in type E than in type D (with one exception, see below) which means you'll have a bit more more flexibility over the way you use the rooms, arrange the furniture, etc. in type D.

    Type E does look as though it might have a larger usable attic space, because of the hipped roof over the front bedrooms. I wouldn't attach much value to that, myself. But it also has the better (larger, squarer) kitchen/dining space. If you see that space as more important than the lounge, that might make you consider type E.



  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Anaki r2d2


    also consider which way the garden faces. South or south west facing rear garden is the pick for afternoon evening sun.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Type D:

    It appears that the front windows will be standing out in Type D (by 0.657m) which appears to be wasted space?

    I wouldn't think it was wasted space? It could be an ideal space for a desk setup, if anyone was working from home ? Or at Christmas you have a perfect space in your lounge for a christmas tree! l

    Utility / Dining room seems better used as well in D.

    E's dining room has a more odd shaped space and a smaller utility room.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭_H80_GHT


    D for me too. Bay windows a lovely feature to have.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭dennyk


    Doesn't appear to be a bay window, but rather a flat window set in an alcove, so not quite as nice. There are still ways to make some use of that space, though, like a window seat with storage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 770 ✭✭✭cobham


    House type D for better proportioned rooms and nice window feature.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Amouar


    Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts! Much appreciated.



  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Anaki r2d2


    OP, not the question you asked.

    But if you can, pick a house that's in a cul de sac. No passing cars.

    Opposite a green if you have or plan to have kids.

    Sunlight in the back garden. No big huge trees behind.

    I can't tell from the drawing, if one is render and the other a brick finish. I would take the brick.

    Render gets grubby really quick in Ireland unless you softwash.

    Happy house buying



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    If I may add to the advice above about buying opposite a green…

    I would advise against buying directly opposite a green. As you'll spend all summer with balls being kicked into your garden (and bounced off you car if you have one).

    Green adjacent, would be better! As in end of the terrace, close enough to see kids on the green, but not directly overlooking it. :)

    Post edited by Ezeoul on


  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Kurooi


    With the roof line of E I wonder are you in for a bit extra space in the attic, especially if a conversion is on the plate down the line. No idea. Just wondering.

    Layout wise they're very similar. I'd lean E because of the kitchen (more cabinets)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Amouar


    We're definitely planning to go for an attic conversion as soon as we get the keys to our house.

    Here are the measurements of the attic (for both house types)

    Do you think that it's good enough for an attic conversion? We mostly plan to use the attic as an office.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Is it constructed of roof trusses or cut timber?



  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭pleh


    With Type E you can comfortably add an additional two chairs to the kitchen table, good for dinner parties, etc also i think i prefer a larger kitchen, heart of the home, and all that so I would pick E. I have an American fridge freezer that sticks out too much into my kitchen and is one of the reasons i'd like to extend my own.

    The smaller box room wouldnt bother me i think people expect these nowadays. I like the idea to add value or at least for that to be possible, so ability to do an attic conversion is a plus for me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    It won't be a habitable room without major changes to the stairs as they have to have fire doors and an in-closed stairs.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,466 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Pretty sure the stairs in this case would be fine, but the doors would need to be replaced to self-closing fire doors.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,466 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    In terms of house type, D all day long for me.

    That upstairs in E would wreck my head. The extra floor space upstairs in E is entirely wasted on the landing, which is absurdly big.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Nope. The stairs needs to be walled in with a fire resistant wall. It is why so few people get proper attic conversions for sale. The legal solution is quite ugly. You also need an alternative exit to the stairs to the attic. You can use a fire ladder for that purpose.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,466 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I think you are getting confused with the regs. There is no requirement for the stairs to be walled in. There is also no requirement for a fire ladder.

    3 story houses are quite common these days. My own house is 3 stories. The stairs are not walled in, in fact I have never, ever seen a new build with walled in stairs. Self closing fire doors from top to bottom, creating an enclosed stair corridor when they are all closed.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭REFLINE1


    If your conversion:
    a) Doesn’t involve raising the roof-line above the existing ridge,
    b) Is 50 square metres or less, and
    c) Has no more than two habitable rooms,
    Then you may use the following fire safety provisions:

    1. Enclose the existing stairway with 30 minute fire-resisting walls or partitions
    2. Extend fire-resisting enclosure to a final exit (such as the front door)
      OR
      Give access to two escape routes at ground level, separated by fire-resisting construction



  • Registered Users Posts: 78,303 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    What materials are used in the front façade? Brick is generally more expensive up front, but cheaper to maintain.

    Type D has a more sheltered front entrance.

    Type E risks a leakier roof, but might have more space for attic storage.

    The small bedrooms are 8m2 and 9m2. However, the positioning of the doors is important. The door mid-wall in Type D could waste space.

    The linen closet in Type E is better positioned and could have a hatch added for access from within the bathroom.

    Both designs have wasted space (in yellow) on the upper landings that could be moved into the rooms. However a certain minimum is needed to maintain a safe distance from the top of the stairs and for people to pass each other. In type D, the bathroom door opens out - not great for fire escape, as the door can be obstructed.

    Part of me isn't enthusiastic about the toilet directly above the front door.

    "also consider which way the garden faces. South or south west facing rear garden is the pick for afternoon evening sun." - the buildings are attached to each other and have exactly the same aspects. It will be the individual house location on the estate that will affect things like evening sun.

    "But if you can, pick a house that's in a cul de sac. No passing cars." - no passing pedestrians either, so there is a higher burglary risk.

    Post edited by Victor on


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