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150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    Are we still discussing Bobson?

    What is the basis of your belief that he has a relationship with Noel Kelly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    Per my previous post that particular poster asserted yesterday that they only causally used the internet for a max of 45 minutes a day. Their contributions yesterday and previous days would suggest to any casual user of this site that isn't casual.

    Of course we are relying on their recollection of how they use the site, and we're all fallible so my opinion is just that, a conclusion drawn from other peoples assertions and nothing more. I have only their word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,926 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    He'll probably hold a seance with Sinead O'Connor as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Will Tubridy be allowed to promote his podcast on his Virgin Radio show?

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    That was this weekend, what about your snarky remarks the rest of the time?

    BTW, I'm assuming your post yesterday where you said you spent a max of 45 mins a day casually browsing was also alcohol and stimulant induced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    just on bobson -

    had him on ignore for a long while, lately his missives provide light entertainment, his “bending over backwards” to assist NK media and Tubs are mildly amusing - tldr - he shouldn’t be banned outright off this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    I don't mind him cheerleading tubs, but his constant insults of posters and of the site itself makes me wonder what special exemption from moderation he enjoys.

    It seems a very pointless pursuit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭swine


    Who are we to say how he chooses to devote 90 minutes of his day?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    True, he could also have a podcast for all we know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭GSF


    he’s had his 90 minutes of fame now. His material is creaking and sagging so it’s a no from me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    "It seems a very pointless pursuit."

    Would it not be fair to say that all of us who post in this thread are engaged in a pointless pursuit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    I think if this thread and indeed this site is taken with the large pinch of salt needed then it can be good fun. If you find yourself peering in through the virtual sweetshop window like some Charlie Bucket type character as Tubridy chooses yet another bar then I’d suggest that isn’t healthy.

    I’m coming round to the idea that the odd hate-listen might be ok. Why not, if that’s what floats one’s boat. I gamble on horses, which I’m sure some people find a bizarre and pointless hobby.

    I would (politely) suggest that constantly visiting his instagram, speculating about his salary/love life/mental health, making up pretty tragic fantasies and scenarios etc is quite sad behaviour and probably has something to do with what Freud called projection. I think Jung’s view of it is more robust though -


    Carl Jung introduced the notion of ‘projection’ to explain how people can feel certain they know  what another person is like and what they think, then interact with the other person on the basis of those assumptions.

    Jung also went on to propose that often these assumptions are false and say more about the person making the assumptions than they do about the other person. He suggested that everyone has ‘shadow’ personality traits ie elements of our personality that we dislike or of which we are ashamed and that rather than acknowledge their presence, we attribute them – project them – onto other people.

    Maybe some of the people ridiculing Tubridy’s love of books is because the last book they finished was a Dan Brown? In 2005 before they got “always on” internet.

    Being young is a great advantage, since we see the world from a new perspective and we are not afraid to make radical changes - Greta Thunburg



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,430 ✭✭✭Morgans


    I'd bet that those who have not finished a Dan Brown book since 2005 are not parading themselves as bookworms, have little else to add to the radio shop than a supposed love of books, or have their agent set up a book relatad podcast.

    I think its more likely that those projecting are jealous because they accepted a pay cut during covid out of solidarity with their work colleagues. They didn't have superagent Noel Kelly try to find a way to offset their loss of earnings by arranging fake MC gigs to be funded by the taxpayer. Pure projection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭Tork


    Interesting too that the thread has been taken way off track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Intriguing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    RE the format, I would concur with others who've said Tubs runs a risk of being found out here. My thinking is, he will keep it very light, unfocused and will make an effort to constantly sidetrack the conversation and run the chat down cul-de-sacs that have little to do with the topic at hand aka his Late Late Show style… Taking a shot every time he says "How did that make you feel?" may lead to liver failure.

    He is such a monumental spoofer. If he was a fraction of the book nerd he claims to be, the podcast would have been something he would have started during his RTE years, just like so many current RTE presenters have podcast side hustles. Now that the wheels are coming off in Virgin and he runs the very real risk of being ousted at any point, he's cobbled together another C and D list Irish celeb love in with his old pals, books being the McGuffin for everyone involved to promote themselves.

    Yawn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Yawn.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The timing of the launch of his podcast is interesting. The RAJAR figures for Q1 2024 are out next month.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    most common tactic used to have threads shut down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭Tork


    I agree - I think it'll be the same sort of format that his radio show and the LLS were. It'll be more familiar territory for him because he'll be talking to another person, rather than trying to present a show solo. We've all heard him on Virgin… Whether retreading this old ground will pull in the numbers is another matter entirely. He is coming very late to the podcast market, which is now a very crowded space. There are already podcasts for just about every subject under the sun out there, along with the highlights podcasts the radio stations put out. I like podcasts but there are only so many of them that any person can subscribe or listen to. This'll have to be pretty special or it'll fizzle out once the inevitable hype dies down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Broadcasting is one to many and the many often can't move the dial. Podcasting is really one to one and there is no many. That's the problem for Turbridy. He has always benefited from a partially captive audience. Without that captive audience, the numbers may revert to people who are interested in his podcast. The Spotify charts may be an indication of his true value to broadcasters.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭Tork


    There are so many ways to get podcasts, is it possible for any lay person to see how many people are listening? I mostly use a podcast app and subscribe to feeds for what I listen to. Others, as you've mentioned, use Spotify. Others use Apple Podcasts, or YouTube (if available). It has more of a decentralised feel to it. Also, perish the thought, is it possible to manipulate the numbers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    His selection of 3 books put the final nail in the coffin that he is a serious book reader.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It would be necessary to rely upon the podcast providers for the statistics. The real danger for Turbridy is a fragmentation of the audience across platforms. Youtube might have some more accessible statistics. It is always possible to manipulate a system. On systems that don't require a creditcard or user verification, the use of multiple sims for mobile Internet access would be one method (a click farm) but that would be obvious to platforms through analysing the logs. It is quite different to using meatbots (a term for online influencers) to make it look like there is an audience.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_farm

    The podcast idea looks like an attempt to package Tubridy's LLS/RTE/VR show style into a new-ish medium. The problem is that his target demographics aren't exactly the younger demographics that listen to podcasts more than radio. Some of his more connected fans will listen. However, Tubridy will be completely reliant upon the quality of guests.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    His "loyal" followers are the women of social media/instagram, who have recently been wetting themselves congratulating him on his new gig. The problem for Tubs, perhaps, is that it's likely only a small proportion of such mammy fans will have any real interest in listening to endless interviews about books, and books, and books etc. Perhaps I'm wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It is simply a highly formatted show for Tubridy complete with the usual misery porn slot. A sort of mini LLS.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    He still has a big following on the Radio Forum, despite him not being on RTE any more. Much stronger than Pat Kenny, and probably only exceeded by Joe Duffy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The small set of those fans who might be more proficient at Internet access may also have Kindle readers or apps. That's an obvious monetisation route for a podcast but Easons doesn't have such a closed loop. It depends on selling print editions.

    There's also a timing issue. A radio in the background at a specific time of day is one thing. Going off and downloading or listening to a podcast is different. It puts the audience in control and requires the audience to take some actions beyond having a radio on in the background. Will all those Tubridy fans convert to a podcast audience? No.

    Tubridy will have to grow the podcast's audience and make it important enough for a celebrity to appear on it. That requires publicity and promotion.

    Regards…jmcc

    Post edited by jmcc on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,662 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Ah I'm just happy that the state of the art recording studio is finally going to get used for the big podcast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,558 ✭✭✭Tow


    I had to lookup who David Walliams was, I suppose I am not in Tubbs target audience.

    Will this be a all round year weekly podcast, or a short 'Session' of a dozen odd episodes? I assume the latter.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Think it is a series of weekly podcasts with a limited number in the first series.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭leath_dub


    As predicted. Only Tubs has the neck to try and run a podcast discussing books without actually reading any of the books.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Is he recording the “big podcast” in dublin or london?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It indicates a lack of preparation. The Indo's review seems to be a critical one and some of the other newspapers have rather fluffy reviews. It doesn't seem like he's the next Joe Rogan.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,285 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    To be fair, this isn’t ’Ryan Reads Books’. It’s all about the guest and their choices.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,430 ✭✭✭Morgans


    To be fair, he/his agent has been concocting this LURVE of books for decades. As with his broadcasting career, Ryan/NKM have felt that he only needs to say something for it to manifest itself, without having to do any legwork. Cosseted by Dee Forbes and RTE, there were plenty who felt that the emperor has no clothes when he was in D4, but just how fake the persona he is being confirmed each week, since he left.

    Listening to this here and the enjoyment Walliams (let's not mention the unpleasantness surrounding him) has for books/reading. It's what Ryan would love to have but wont work hard enough for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Karppi


    One quote from the Indo article says it all, really

    The worst moment came when Tubridy asked Walliams what, in the event of him writing his autobiography, the book would be called. Walliams replied that he had written an autobiography. (It was called ‘Camp David’, which is a good title. It was published in October 2012 by Michael Joseph. God Almighty, is there no researcher?)

    Walliams gently said that he’d like to write a memoir about being a father which he would entitle ‘With You’. He saved it. Just.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Walliams has written a lot of books which have sold 37 million copies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Walliams_bibliography

    Apparently Tubridy asked him what the name of his autobiography would be and Walliams pointed out that he had written an autobiography in 2012. Seems that Tubridy was out-namedropped too.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    That's embarrassing for Tubs.

    Then again, preparation was never his strong point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I read Dan Brown's Da Vince The Da Vinci Code. It was the first time I saw how a bad writter can trick you into thinking they've created something good, went on to read on other book only to discover that it was large the same tempo, plot and set piece but with a different hook, I stopped half way through that one.

    Well he's got a bad review from the indo today, sounds like someone on here wrote it!

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/the-bookshelf-with-ryan-tubridy-podcast-review-just-one-problem-it-doesnt-sound-like-tubs-has-read-the-books/a181699271.html


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    He had a team of researchers in RTE that made him look good. This seems to be more the real Tubridy rather than the RTE Tubridy.

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Behold;

    Comments are 'turned off'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,430 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Asking who Philip Larkin was, not really a highlight either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,076 ✭✭✭gipi


    The review in the Irish Times takes a different view - the reviewer thinks this is where tubs needs to be, and she says she'll listen to more.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio/review/2024/04/16/the-bookshelf-ryan-tubridy-kicks-off-his-podcast-with-the-curiously-dressed-david-walliams/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    So much for Tubridy's literary credibility.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    I can't see his podcast vehicle gaining traction if he doesn't do the most basic research on what his interviewees have published.



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