The crusade against the motorist continues...

If the traffic isn't going fast enough to injure you, its going to be slow enough for someone to follow you and hence no better than there being none.

Personally, the section in ble I would have restricted car access

How popular am I? I would even go out as far as the castleknock gates to the park

The park should be shut down to traffic altogether, that was plan years ago and never happened

You wouldn't be trying to change the subject away from your comparison of a bike with passing space to a car with no passing space, by any chance?

And technically correct is the best kind of correct.

The frequency of getting stuck (which is much more often behind cars) wasn't the point.

It really means getting more cycle and bus lanes in place and that bus lanes should probably be given priority over cycle lanes where the dimensions don't allow both.

How are you posting while driving all day?

Pedestrians are more likely to vote with their feet and avoid pedestrianised area at night which potentiallly have more anti -social behaviour. Thats why Henry street is a dead zone in comparison with Grafton. Street after the shops have closed.

I think maybe ideology is preventing you seeing this.

I certainly agree that ideally less cars and more pedestrian areas everywhere are better. The realities of crime and policign and lack of public transport should be taken into account also

Aston Quay is already full of antisocial behaviour. The idea that people passing through in their cars would prevent this is nonsensical and as you say shouldn't be intertwined with this measure.

Does passing motor traffic offer better passive supervision than passing pedestrian traffic?

Cars should be too expensive for idiots to get behind the wheel. Insurance premiums rise until it meets that price point unfortunately.

How pedestrianised genuinely is Grafton St though ? I almost got flattened by a van Thursday morning!

Are other streets that are going car free REALLY going car free? I can’t drive so no skin in this game!!

Oh thank you that helps!!

I rarely walk that way but I’ll know now!

As I recall the threads you used to hijack had little if anything to do with road safety but were instead from pedestrians venting their frustration with many in the cycling fraternity who don't seem to know what a footpath is for or what a red light means. So to see you above all people accusing someone of trying to "change the subject" was … amusing to say the least.

These threads bring back not-so-fond memories. One: of being stuffed into bottlenecked, sardine can trains and Luases when I was "lucky" enough to live near a railway, and two: of having to negotiate with two-wheeled menaces who treated footpaths like their own private racetrack.

But yes, the REAL problem in Dublin is supposedly not the awful and sparse public transport, but the people for whom this isn't a realistic option. Got it.

Yes, that's a great example - drivers kill about 40 pedestrians each year, nearly one each week, and pedestrians want to vent about cyclists.