Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

I mean we know companies are being paid to house refugees.

Did you not know this already?

What do you mean by follow the money in this context?

It seems you are hinting at some greater conspiracy any chance you could explain.

I generally avoid the latter as I hope you do .

But no all links are not equal . And Gript ...there is a thread on this...is not considered reliable by many posters nit just me .

Not discussing further here as It is discussed elsewhere in depth ➡️

The govt should. But it hasn't. Thats my point.

You can only play a hand with the cards you hold, not the Royal Flush we would have hoped for.

And these current rising prices are largely due to government policy in commandeering lower priced tourist accommodation options as use for so called temporary emergency accommodation. The likes that can make a lot more by signing contracts for 365 days a year occupancy.

You're not going to nail this as greed among those that have managed to keep going in the tourist market. This is a clusterf*** of the state's making and those who support those policies.

Driving down the income and ruining the businesses of those who relied on the seasonal work in the normal tourism season. The birds will come to roost yet and it ain't going to be pretty for upcoming elections in these areas.

Why holiday in Ireland when you can go to Spain, Portugal, Greece for cheaper and will be guaranteed good weather? Most people living here want to get away to the sun and heat for a week or so as break from the weather we get. Yes you can be lucky and get good weather holidaying here but its not guaranteed like it would be in the Med.

Similar to what happened in Leixlip. Ryevale House was refused planning permission to be used as an accommodation centre. Despite this Dept. of Integration began hosting over 80 women there. All the trees surrounding the house, which is a listed building, were felled without permission. These are trees over 150 years old. Now bags of human excrement and toilet paper are appearing in the woods surrounding the house, obviously being dumped there as the plumbing of the house was not designed to house 80 people plus staff.

Incidentally the developer of the property is the same builder who owned the Shipwright pub in Ringsend and Honeywood in Leixlip, both of which were burned down before they could be used to house 'homeless people'.

There have been numerous articles in the Independent and the Journal regarding his use of shell companies to hide his assets and sources of funding. Some people are making a lot of money from housing asylum seekers and the ROG should be held accountable for his role in this.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/anger-leixlip-department-dispute-council-26927389

https://www.thesun.ie/news/10709976/logging-protected-trees-emergency-accommodation-vandalism-claims/

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/roderic-ogorman-reported-to-sipo-over-use-of-historic-ryevale-house-for-asylum-seekers/a1795997488.html

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/management-deny-kildare-asylum-seeker-28965418

https://www.thejournal.ie/emergency-housing-asylum-seekers-companies-government-money-millions-6299290-Mar2024/

The people being housed in Ryevale house are international protection applicants.

And are Covid and other costs increases not relevant all across Europe & elsewhere too???

The big difference in Ireland is that the state and it's public servants have chosen to subsume more modestly priced visitor accommodation into refugee and ISA use. And in doing so, have reduced supply, thus knock on effects of other businesses and additional rising costs.

Meanwhile other EU states have taken in smaller numbers proportional to their populations and even then have protected their important tourism industries.

Our problem is that the Greens here between Roderic O'Gorman and Catherine Martin couldn't give a damn about Irish tourism.

Hopefully but there is little evidence of change. The state seems focused on so called 'short term' solutions by letting out visitor accommodation. It has the funds to do this and it's relatively easy to sub contract the problem. For all the talk of developing state facilities, we may question if these will ever proceed. The state has lost it's track record in building housing long ago and of course, we'll see many objections from local communities if proper planning procedures apply.

I think Irish society will look back on this period and realise/ accept that grave mistakes have been made.

Refugee/migrant groups won't be happy until every last IPA has their own door accommodation, so you can rule out appeasing them and better yet just ignore.

Also - what dedicated asylum centres - what have we to keep up with the numbers coming in? This is the biggest clusterfuck of a government since 2007. The only option they have left is to deter the rest by making it harsh on those who got here. They're clearly trying but even our wettest winter in years hasn't stopped IPAs coming in.

I read this magic beans migration pact is 2026, it's the perfect plan for McEntee to hide behind and see out her term, and even if it is the correct solution, you can bet the IPAs will now seek to arrive here in an exponential fashion until then now that we've given them a deadline.

We don't know where they're going but I'd reckon after 2 years of handsome welfare payments, without the need for Ukrainians having to stump up for food or otherwise within that time, they're off home with their savings or able to put down very very generous deposits on accommodation up for rental. I'm sure if the Ukrainian supports were cut to what new arrivals are given, we'd see a massive exodus from state accommodation leaving room for 'genuine' asylum seekers.