FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

Seriously WTF, you think they advertised and would hire any ordinary Joe Jane so, it's always a who you know

Of course they dont.

Yes yes, they usually publish data on crony appointments and nepotism. Let us just dig that data out.

The forced naivety is astounding (and fake).

Patrick O’Donovan has only been appointed to his new portfolio by Harris about 2 days ago but you think he advertised, interviewed and picked a returning FG Harris fan TD's sister just by chance, coincidence

And you know it is not

I'll give you this you have great faith and believe and admiration in FG

What else would you call it then as that is what I'm calling it

You seem very defensive of and pro FG in your posts

I couldn't find a thread or post on the latest Fine Fail Ard Fheis, so hopefully this is an okay thread to post in?

Seems to be a very small crowd of the faithful in attendance!

Also coverage on RTE seems to be lacking compared to Fine Gael's?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/micheal-martin-sinn-fein-speech-32576207?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Tánaiste Micheál Martin has described Sinn Féin as the “most cynical and destructive opposition in our history” and said they are “hoping to bulldoze their way to power”.

At the opening night of the Fianna Fáil Ard Fheis in Dublin, Mr Martin used most of his speech to blast Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald and her party.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/martin-we-cannot-go-into-government-with-sinn-fein-over-eu-its-policies-1612786.html In an opening speech to Fianna Fáil delegates on Friday evening, Mr Martin accused Sinn Féin of spending “90 per cent of their time attacking government parties in aggressive and often personal terms”.

Coming across as a cry baby? "Mummy My colleagues in work are mean to me."

Mickey Martin has gone on the record before he couldn't work with FG!

Didn't both Ard Fheis take time to talk about Sinn Fein?

Also didn't they knock Sinn Fein for holding rallies. Aren't they just doing the same under a different name?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-51653824

Moderators if this is the wrong thread for this please move/delete.

FG produced a whole New Politics document in 2011 blaming Fianna Fail for all the country's ills and promising to do things better (it was all lies).

Some lines from it.

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The finger of responsibility must, in the first instance, point directly to the massive
policy failures of the recent Fianna-Fail led Governments and their willingness to promote
the interests of a so-called “Golden Circle” over the interests of the Citizen. Under Fianna
Fail a political culture developed which ensured that the bankers and the developers were not
dealt with before it was too late. A culture which tolerates cosy cartels and high costs in the
private sector and ignores the need for radical reform in the public sector.

Successive Fianna Fáil-led Governments have used Social Partnership
to create an entirely parallel system of policy formation which involves outsourcing
vital parts of government to unelected and often unaccountable bodies.

Fine Gael wants to reverse the restrictions that Fianna Fail has placed on Freedom of
Information in Ireland.

However, it is also clear that several key weaknesses in Ireland’s political system facilitated
the failures of the last twelve years. In particular

A hugely centralised State with few real checks and balances;
An over-powerful Executive that increasingly ignores the Dáil;
A proliferation of State agencies and Quangos that answer to no one and a model of
Social Partnership which effectively excluded the Dáil

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And now they are bestest buddies.

If I was to sum up FG since 2011 in one word, it would be "hypocritical". A massive let down to be honest.

I have always known what FF were about...

Interesting to see what FF say at their Ard Fheis about housing. Will they double down on Harris' vacuous 250,000 "promise" or raise the bar even more.

Yes yes, the reason Fine Gael didn't implement any of their 2011 New Politics manifesto is…..wait for it….Catherine Connolly (IND). 😂

Never mind that Connolly only got elected to the Dail in 2016 and isn't a member of Fine Gael 😁

Do you ever reply to criticism of the FFG government without bringing in a complete tangent or whataboutery?

I voted FG 1 & 2 in 2011 by the way. And they both got elected. Zero reform though. Never mentioned New Politics again afterwards.

The arguments are getting increasingly weak. Like the Garda numbers yesterday, semantics and then ran away.

So again a post that doesn't even mention New Politics. You just want to distract? Is that your MO? Why do you bother replying to a post about Fine Gael's New Politics in a thread about FFG? No comment on the failure of New Politics in 2 responses. It's very disengenous and I think deep down you see that. The "look over there" response ad nauseum.

• Giveaway budget in September, election in October. Oldest trick in the book and it will probably work
• FFG promises to bribe Irish taxpayers with their own money ...

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0413/1443307-fianna-fail-ard-fheis/

There certainly preparing for the next GE.

Good old thread on Future of Micheal Martin.

While he is leader of FF, no chance of a collation with SF, and probably not a great chance if he is gone.

Is it the President role (2025) he may have his sights on next, as he achieved his goal of Taoiseach if only for half a term.

As expected, they are running scared on the patent referendum. It should be a slam dunk but not for the coalition of chaos.

https://www.thejournal.ie/tanaiste-micheal-martin-postpone-patent-referendum-6353519-Apr2024/

Was moaning that RTE had little coverage of the Ard fheis last night.

Allocating half an hour tonight after the News, same amount of time as FG.

Seems FF TD's are utilizing twitter to get there messages from the Ard Fheis across.