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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    We played at pace at the start of first half last year and went 23-7 up and that still wasn’t enough to win. We beat them with Connors in December so he starts in my books.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    The ruck will be a different experience to previous games I think tomorrow also.

    Lancasters tactic was completely leave it alone and get 14/15 men on their feet in the line.

    Neinaber has introduced a much more combative ruck approach and really make the opposition work and commit bodies.

    I think our old game plan lent to other teams flopping on our ruck - something LAR took the absolute piss out of.

    Yes it's illegal but "inconsequental" to a ref as we'd still retain possession, albeit slower.

    More bodies in the breakdown and contesting it more on both sides of the ball means it will need to be policed more. I hope us going after it more will bring more attention to just how much LAR take the piss with it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Aggregate score of the last 4 meetings is Leinster 86 - LAR 92.

    Incredible that after 4 games the score is still a LBP worth of difference.

    I also had to admire the utter deception used to lift Skelton. They didn't even strap blocks on him haha.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leinster actually attacked the ruck more aggressively in the final too. Although it was with a view to poach the ball rather than counter ruck. That was another change Leinster made specifically for that game. It worked for the first half, but La Rochelle changed tactics in the second and we tired. Just wasn't as effective in the second 40.

    At the ruck Leinster are pretty illegal as well. We'll really miss Ryan tomorrow as he has the ability melt one on his own.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Team is out

    Jenkins and Connors start and it's a 6-2 split. Sacrificing the lineout for more power. No Healy either so we're really hoping this doesn't develop into a slow, set piece battle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭conquestscarer


    The Lancaster game plan-Have as quick ruck ball as possible in attack, then never slow down the oppositions ball in Defence. Utterly bizarre viewpoint.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    I know we hype up how big La Rochelle pack are. And other French teams.

    But that Leinster starting pack is **** massive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Clontarf_Jazz


    You'd have to fear for Leinster's lineout with that team. There's going to be huge pressure on Ryan Baird with 2 non jumping locks playing. They sure must be planning to keep the ball in play as much as possible. Harry Byrne must be sick as the proverbial parrot given how awful his bros was last W/E & what a limited player Ross is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Does Baird call the lineout for tomorrow? Murray Kinsella has been singing his praises all season for how much he has developed his game at the set piece. Will be a huge ask for him though.

    Really like the look of our bench. Kelleher, Milne, Conan and VDF are all very impactful carriers. When to use the bench is something we've definitely improved on this season. Our subs took the game away from Bulls a few weeks ago and Conan and Kelleher made positive contributions against Leicester last week. In both finals against La Rochelle we didn't use our subs well enough. Distinct memories of McCarthy getting like 2 minutes off the bench in 2022 and Kelleher just 10 minutes in 2023.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    This is absolutely enormous chance for Milne.

    Porter likely to go 70 but whatever time Milne comes on the pitch it will probably be the biggest test of his career thus far.

    His scrummaging has greatly improved and his carrying an obvious strength. I have no reservations about seeing his name and this could be a real turning point for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭conquestscarer


    Are Porter and Furlong the only players under 6'4?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    I can not f**king wait to get to Lansdowne tomorrow. Not been this excited for a match in a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Sheehan too. 1.91m on Leinster and Ireland sites which has him at 6'3" and those stats are normally generous



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Just don't like the 6/2 split. It's just asking for trouble.

    Connors obviously been kept on ice for this the last couple of weeks on the assumption we would be playing LAR.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,717 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Dulin misses out, Leyds starts at FB. Otherwise as expected, and a 6-2 split on the bench

    15. Dillyn Leyds, 14. Jack Nowell, 13. UJ Seuteni, 12. Jonathan Danty, 11. Teddy Thomas, 10. Antoine Hastoy, 9. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 1. Louis Penverne, 2. Tolu Latu, 3. Uini Atonio, 4. Ultan Dillane, 5. Will Skelton, 6. Judicael Cancoriet, 7. Levani Botia, 8. Grégory Alldritt (c)

    Replacements:

    16. Quentin Lespiaucq, 17. Alexandre Kaddouri, 18. Joel Sclavi, 19. Thomas Lavault, 20. Paul Boudehent, 21. Yoan Tanga, 22. Teddy Iribaren, 23. Ihaia West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Brice Dulin missing out is big. He's been excellent every time we've played them. Dilyn Leyds moves to 15.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Dulin was near unplayable last year (or was it the away game this year? The games have melded together for me)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    since final last year?!?


    they picked the wrong Byrne at 10

    ROG will have them running at him all day. He has great experience of how a 10 can be a weakness in defence!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Connors is the right call, I think. He's so good at completely stopping a ball carriers momentum. Which is exactly what we need against La Rochelle.

    But I've no doubt at all that ROG et al were expecting him to start. They'll have some sort of plan to counteract it.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Tobias Bewildered Bluebird


    Dulin seems like a big loss for them, he's class. Is it injury or selection? Overall the team doesn't look as strong as the ones that have beaten us in the finals imo (absolutely not trying to tempt fate, I still think Leinster will lose).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Teddy Thomas is still rapid. I'd we don't get our defence right he could cause a lot of damage. But we can definitely exploit him in defence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Connors is great at meeting one out carriers and hitting them behind the gain line. Guess the simple thing to do for LAR would be to get the first man out to pop it off to one of LARs big carriers (ie Antonio popping it to Skelton or vice versa) which theoretically frees up the passer for the second phase assuming they get over the gainline. Be interesting to see how it unfolds. Do you task Connors to chop down one or two particular players or on each phase to be that first man up out of the line with his hair literally on fire (to pay homage to EOS)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Dulin definitely a loss for them , have never understood why he never played more for France , always really impressive every time I see him play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    That's what I was thinking as well. Pop passing/offloading out of the tackle is a big risk especially if it's from a forward to another forward. But they're probably good enough to pull it off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Probably a risk they'd be willing to take as I expect they'll back themselves to put the Leinster scrum under pressure although they're missing Wardi, Bourgarit and Colombe from their front row/front replacements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Dulin has been a pain in our ass.

    By the looks of the wings they are going for speed and attacking leinster out wide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leinster needed to go 6-2 off the bench. We've faded in the second half as La Rochelle's power just wore us down.

    Although we've seen that backfire for Toulouse against us last season and for Ireland against England last month.

    Everything is a risk in the biggest games I suppose. Hope it works out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Always impressive v Leinster, a few times I have watched him when not playing against Leinster and he was ok to poor

    Like the 10 they used to have, who couldn't hit a barn door all season, but Leinster come a calling and he couldn't miss :-)



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