Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

what a thread ,

only one opinion allowed. anything else uninformed racism and dirty Jewish propaganda

Citation needed.

blatant racism anti Semitism and fascism rebranded as liberalism.

Elaboration required, otherwise hyperbole. Citation needed.

clear
proof of lies misinformation and slimy half information drops ignored
for the cause of social media virtue signaling and populism

Evidence required.

those
who cry for the poor Palestinians ignore the footage of them cheering
the returned hero's with their hostages and the blood of children and
old people on the 7 th October and the support for their horrible cause.
Source needed.

allowing and protecting them when they use hospitals and UN facilities to run a terrorist army

Evidence required.

im sure there are innocent people dying but a lot of them died on the 7th October too

Yes.

perhaps
escalating a huge war isnt the way to go when your best defense is to
mobilize a obnoxious completely unself aware gormless leftists in Europe
and America . the very same people who would be the victims of hamas
terrorism for their liberal views

What is a leftist exactly and what part do they have to play in a conflict 70+ years in the making?

if they want an end to the war
hamas can surrender and release the hostages that they haven't killed
yet or he people of gaza can turn on them and with the support of the
idf clean gasa of hamas.

How exactly can the Gazans turn on Hamas? They are not armed and are in fact now starving as a result of an enforced Israeli famine. How many hostages have Hamas killed? How many hostages have the IDF killed?

"Although a top IDF official said that this change had nothing to do with US pressure, the timing was unmistakable in coming right after the IDF’s disastrous mistaken killing of seven humanitarian aid workers last week."

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-795724

Still almost 200 trucks fewer than were needed before the October 7th blockade despite the fact that Gaza's entire food production capacity and all of their food storage reserves have been fully depleted/destroyed

Before the blockade, there were about 140 trucks a day just to supply food, and another 300 to supply the other necessities, clothes, equipment, medical supplies etc

They probably need more than 500 trucks a day just to supply clean water, blankets and food now that the entire infrastructure of Gaza has been destroyed and hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced with no access to any of the means for survival in a desert environment as it approaches the summer season.

Agreed. How to accomplish this with Hamas in place is part of the challenge. At least in the case of Israel, there's a chance an election might change some things. No chance in Gaza while Hamas are there. As their spokesman said

"Abu Marzouk responded to reported discussions about a new military force in Gaza comprising troops from various countries, including Arab states, by saying: “As a movement, we will fight against any force, whether it was from any nationality, in the Gaza Strip."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hamas-gaza-biden-israel-interview_n_660c54c2e4b09f580bc5bcb2

I know Bibi is sometimes cast as the sole bad guy in charge of Israel but is there much hope that his replacement will be any different? His policies to Gaza and the West Bank over the last few months don't seem thst unpopular with the Israeli voters even if he is.

Alas, short lived.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2024-04-08/the-latest-israeli-troops-withdraw-from-khan-younis-ahead-of-expected-rafah-offensive

If Israel are committing genocide they're doing a really bad job at it.

Please elaborate, argument is unclear.

Given how many Jewish persons live today were the Nazis doing a really bad job at committing genocide too?

Definition of Genocide: https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/what-is-genocide
Anatomy of a Genocide: https://www.un.org/unispal/document/anatomy-of-a-genocide-report-of-the-special-rapporteur-on-the-situation-of-human-rights-in-the-palestinian-territory-occupied-since-1967-to-human-rights-council-advance-unedited-version-a-hrc-55/

I'm highlighting in my post the ignorance directed towards Jews living abroad. They are alot of useful idiot's doing the propaganda work of Hamas. 

That's antisemitic in itself isn't it, to call 'Jews living abroad' "ignorant," "useful idiots" because they oppose a genocide, particularly one in this case having been committed by Israel? Maybe I’m lacking critical context here if so I apologize.

In other wars the civilian casualty is much higher. 

Please show your work.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/daily-death-rate-gaza-higher-any-other-major-21st-century-conflict-oxfam

Islam is a backwards ideology, any phobia of it is well founded. Who is committing mass casualty terror attacks in Europe?

For years and even currently the Church was dragged through the mud, posters here laughed at religious Christian people, is that Christianaphobia? What about Russiaphobia, Russians are called Orcs on the Russian thread. What about Trump supporters, is that Trumpaphobia?

I hope the Palestinian Authority is suing Israel for the cost of rebuilding.