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  • #482
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963320#Comment_121963320

    Some are NOT being dealt with and are causing major trouble in some forums. It’s all so terribly obvious unless one is wearing blinkers.



  • #483
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    They can’t though, they are not cybersecurity experts. It has proven to be the case. They cannot detect reregs if re reg has such knowledge and people are getting very smart now.

    Edit- I tried to quote @Charleigh Tinkling Squadron there but Vanilla is acting up woefully with iPhone use anyway past two days.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • #484
    Oscar_Madison
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963320#Comment_121963320

    sorry but don’t give me that “reporting” rubbish - I and MANY others have reported multiple posts on certain threads and NOTHING is done about those certain posters continuing in the same posting style - Ive taken on b0ll0x responses from an ADMIN on this site when I directly challenged him on PM and I’m more than prepared to do it here also - the ordinary posters have taken enough - we won’t be bullied by terse and condescending ADMIN or moderator responses from here on in that’s for sure



  • #485
    Charleigh Tinkling Squadron
    Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963333#Comment_121963333

    if you suspect someone’s a re reg then feel free to send me the link to their profile and I’ll share with the admins. I can’t offer anymore help than that.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • #486
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963329#Comment_121963329

    And yes, that type of re reg needs to be stopped after no more than 10 posts by AI, or at least halted before a mod has seen it. In fact nobody should be allowed continue past a few posts before a mod has verified they are not set up to troll. I do t blame ordinary mods, I’ve been there, I do blame the site owners though.



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  • #487
    Charleigh Tinkling Squadron
    Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963351#Comment_121963351

    I’m sorry if you feel that I’m bullying you or being condescending. I certainly do not mean to sound that way I am honestly trying to help you here.

    but to take your frustration out on us like you have is unfair Oscar, we are all doing our best with the tools we have available. If you feel that someone is not being addressed is it that they haven’t broken the rules? We don’t have sides to take but often posters can feel someone should be dealt with when there’s nothing wrong with their posting.

    For every 10 reports I read maybe 1-2 are actionable and the rest are clearly just the reporter not liking what was said very much or indeed the poster they reported. But as I said seeing as I have no idea what you’re personally referring to I can’t be of much use here.



  • #488
    Ezeoul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963024#Comment_121963024

    I actually think it was a good thing this thread was moved from AH.

    If it hadn't been, many of the posters who have expressed their views freely here would without a doubt have already been subjected to warnings and threadbans and the thread shut down, as a previous similar post by the same OP was. (Someone posted a link to it above). Link Here

    At least this time, it has been allowed to run its course.



  • #489
    Oscar_Madison
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,229 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963369#Comment_121963369

    I’m not getting at you personally Charleigh Tinkling Squadron- just to be clear- obviously I’m angry - I’ll leave what I said there -maybe others can put it more diplomatically - thanks

    And PS- no you weren’t conscending or bullying either - I think that’s important also to clarify - you’ve had your own abuse on this thread and elsewhere - I don’t mean to add to it



  • #490
    Hungry Burger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    The current affairs forum is actually hilarious. The vast majority of the posters are right wing yet the moderators are fairly out to the left, a mighty paradox.



  • #491
    McDougal2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭McDougal2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963382#Comment_121963382

    So true the moderators are so out of their depth. They need to get with the winning side. I was "warned" for several no valid reason except I was told to "read the rules of some blah blah" This guy sounds as if he's about 10 with the attitude of "Teacher look at how good a big boy I am". Thank god for Sarsfields.



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  • #492
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963351#Comment_121963351

    +1

    I second that



  • #493
    Furze99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963184#Comment_121963184

    Respectfully, I'm mildly surprised that you seem to think that posters are not registering new accounts so as to access threads and topics of interest. As a moderator, it must be very obvious? Any regular poster on threads can spot them. I could make a fair guess as to the former names of some on this thread. Some threads, like the Russia have many. In fact, if they weren't tolerated - current activity would fall away steeply. I'm not going to bother looking for it but I do recall Beasty, a sensible chap, observing that it was quite legitimate i.e. logical for posters to re register. This is a boards problem, not the users.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963183#Comment_121963183

    I respectfully disagree - there are petty warnings and threadbans handed out. But continue shooting the messenger..



  • #494
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963455#Comment_121963455

    I was recently warned for being the messenger, I don’t dispute it as I was a bit cheeky with it 😁 but the original mega-troller gets away it Scot-free. Walks away to go to ur sticking 2 fingers at other posters who are getting very annoyed and the site must be very busy with the amount of PMs going around about it. It is SOOO obvious. We, the broadly decent posters, just won’t put up with it.



  • #495
    Furze99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963382#Comment_121963382

    To moderate current affairs and politics and the like threads, you'd want a) to be bang up to date with the topic and the prevailing news & views and b) up to date with the internal thread agendas. I'm not convinced at all that some mods are up to date with or interested in the topics they're trying to keep an eye on. So they just become reactive to the moment and whatever posts are flagged without seeing it as a whole.



  • #496
    Charleigh Tinkling Squadron
    Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963358#Comment_121963358

    There have been measures implemented to prevent re reg that have either failed miserably or semi worked. The tools vanilla offers us sometimes work well and sometimes don’t work at all! Mike is in constant communication with the devs.

    even if it looks like nothing is being done, trust me (or don’t, your choice), there’s always something being looked at and trialled.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • #497
    Fr Tod Umptious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,163 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963170#Comment_121963170

    There is a poster active on this thread that was a wum on a long running thread that had multiple "do not post here again" warnings against them.

    And they kept coming back posting, ignoring the warnings until they were eventually permanently thread banned.

    And they are on this thread complaining about mods.

    Post edited by Fr Tod Umptious on


  • #498
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,997 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963455#Comment_121963455

    No messenger shot. Just perma-victimhood getting knocked down



  • #499
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963498#Comment_121963498

    I know there’s stuff being done quite frequently on Boards software, it goes a bit crazy when there’s updates, enough to prove Vanilla doesn’t lend itself well to the job making it very frustrating for all. There’s hard-working dedicated mods who seem to have enormous patience for the deficits, I know I’d throw in the towel… I actually did ahead of it all.



  • #500
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    sometimes you see very alike posting styles criticising other posters for being victims, needy, pathetic blah blah blah, amazing similar use of language.

    I agree that there are needlessly needy personalities on Boards, but to say people giving critique, in the hope that the site might be improved for all, are all pathetic needy people is one form of insidious trolling, actually one that I didn’t tolerate well as a mod, and one or two people who are friends of a former mod still give me stick over it.



  • #501
    Furze99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963579#Comment_121963579

    Yes, it's an unpleasant characteristic of some. But I suppose as with other disrupters, best ignored.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


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  • #502
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,525 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    The world-wide move to mobile devices is a far bigger issue that any moderation, IMHO.

    Posting anything substantial from a mobile-device "keyboard" is just hard work. I cannot be ar$ed, for the most part. So any post beyond a couple of lines (eg this one) has to wait til I'm on machine with a real keyboard. And I know from my work that the number of households with a desktop or laptop has shrunk massively: most non-techy people now have a tablet at most.

    So posts tend to be short, and miss out nuances.

    That and AI: many people have suspicions, but no one really knows what posts are made by humans and what ones are made by bots. There are lots of threads that I would not waste time on any more, just 'cos I think they're suspect.



  • #503
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963615#Comment_121963615

    I ignore 99.99% of the time, but when it comes to such a thread like this and they come on here with “other posters are pathetic Schtick” that is seen in their other posting, where I have not commented so as not to derail thread & get warned etc, I take the rare opportunity for legitimately pointing it out. 😀



  • #504
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    Very true. I use my mobile device for most things. I have eyesight issues due to MS so focussing on a large screen takes a lot of energy and concentration for me. I use my desktop nearly entirely for hobby coding & gaming, dark web exploration & techy stuff.



  • #505
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,093 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I would safely say 90% of users have never had any interaction with mods. There's a whole world out there besides CA, After Hours, and Soccer.



  • #506
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,979 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121961562#Comment_121961562

    I don't think there is any rule where you can't post anecdotes on the site?

    The two threads you highlighted had mod instructions applied to them that anecdotes were no longer welcomed.

    I'm obviously not a mod I just gave my own opinion and tried to explain my reason as to why I think they don't add to discussion in them specific threads you highlighted.



  • #507
    Charleigh Tinkling Squadron
    Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963455#Comment_121963455

    I think you’ve misunderstood me. I am not blind to the re reging that goes on. I am saying it’s illogical because it just gets you in more trouble when you’re caught.

    I can think of a few examples of exactly that happening in recent weeks.
    I don’t think Beasty ever said it’s fair or logical for a poster to re reg in order to circumvent a threadban though.



  • #508
    Marley Harsh Specs
    Posts: 0 ✭ Marley Harsh Specs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121963684#Comment_121963684

    tbf Beasty implied for personal type reasons other than circumventing it is ok to cease one account where you haven’t been banned, or to post temporarily in personal issues for privacy & safety reasons, alongside your usual posting.

    But there is presently no way any senior mods can know for certain about rereg accounts. There would need to be a more complicated and secure encrypted registration process to make it a bit more difficult, but I can immediately think of potential bot ways around this too. But pure ordinary trollers would find it a tad more wearisome and Boards would find it a tad more expensive



  • #509
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,818 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121962930#Comment_121962930

    I believe in being as transparent as possible and see no issue in letting you know that the discussion was moved here because I saw it in AH, suggested that it was better suited to Feedback, and so it was moved here by an AH mod.

    A few hours later, I asked in a roundabout way that it be left open because I value good feedback and I see this as an opportunity for our users to offer their answers to the question asked in the OP. I see some good answers coming in as a result of it being here and believe that having it here is better than having it in AH.

    At the moment, it’s the #1 trending discussion on the site so it was and continues to be a worthwhile opportunity for everyone to have their say on an important issue. As long as your post doesn’t break any site rules or the forum charter, feel free to share your thoughts. It’s certainly given us a few things to chew on so far.

    Thanks.

    -Shield



  • #510
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    trying to find where you last posted on here is a fcukin nightmare. I’ll be on here tomorrow and I won’t have a clue where to go looking for where I was.
    it has something to do with them fcukin stars but it’s too complicated for me to learn.
    the old set up was far more user friendly. Hit last post and away you went.
    I still use it but I don’t post as much because my posts are gone tomorrow like a fart in the wind and I haven’t a fcukin clue where to go looking for them.
    most thanked post of the day and being able to see thanks was also brilliant. Also now gone.



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  • #511
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    unless someone quotes you in a post now and you get a red jingle bell notification you may aswell just be talking to yourself.



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