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Leo Varadkar resigns as Taoiseach

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    So very true.I've been eligible to vote for....about 22 years now.And in the short-ish time, it has just been rinse and repeat.This time round, Irish people actually appear more aware of the change that they want, want more for the taxes that we pay, and the better services that our rich economy should be able to afford - but the political establishment still come across as being 15 years or so behind the electorate.It's painful, waiting for them to slowly come to the realisation that we want a proper health service for the millions we pump into it, that is actually accessible to everyone and not just consisting of years of waiting list...a decent education system...the ability to buy a normal house on a normal salary....

    Any day now, they'll catch up.Any day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    He's actually not being pretty specific. Of course that's his implication. But if he has such pictures, do you really think that Cosgrave is the kind of person who would think "oh god, we can't publish those!"? He's already made specific allegations of sexual impropriety against two of his former Web Summit founders, without providing any evidence, so it's not like he has form in holding back on his claims.

    Earlier, he tweeted a vague The Ditch story from the end of February about a "Fine Gael Politician close to the hierarchy" who is under Garda investigation for paying sex workers with money appropriated from a publicly funded body.

    There may well be truth to that story - but Cosgrave has repurposed it in his tweet to make it look like it might refer to Varadkar specifically, and the reason behind his resignation. When it's clear that it's not Varadkar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    “As long as it’s consensual (wink face), but more on that later”


    Yeah, this just got spiced up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    100%, but Leo has resigned. He’s hardly making a claim like that and promising more without something.


    Edit: maybe he is, who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    Lol, he's still promising a "press conference" for last Monday that never happened about the "sex and drug scandal" he claims he has.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,499 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    This is the guy who spend the first year of the pandemic peddling lies about dead nurses. He's a proven chronic liar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo



    I know for a fact that as postgrad student in major university in early to mid 90s, that entire years in certain course had their grades inflated as otherwise half would have failed. Junior lecturers were told it and TAs knew it from just dealing with ones in say second year.

    At the time it appears the goal was to make sure young people stayed in education and off the live register.

    Then when celtic tiger tech economy took off the aim was to provide number of graduates to keep tech companies happy.

    You had lots of conversion courses to IT popping up.

    Except quality of some wasn't great, but it looked to outside world like we had huge highly educated workforce.

    Then over the years we had the knowledge economy mullarkey which again necessitated large numbers of graduates.

    Yes some courses are still damn hard to get into and even harder to qualify out of, but they are lots of courses that really are fillers.

    Then second level education has taken a hammering.

    I was frankly shocked at how easy some of the junior cert questions now are.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    100% agreed and known - I am intrigued though - I’m an idiot for bait.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭LetticebCivil


    No matter ones political leanings that place is a cesspit. It is bullying no doubt about it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Because maybe he is enjoying himself watching some people squirm.

    I have a feeling there might be something, what with the haste old leo has jumped ship.

    Cosgrove and the ditch have shown they have insider contacts that provide them with information.

    Who is to say someone hasn't slipped them salacious detail and that old Leo found out.

    Depending on what comes out it could mean a huge loss of what is left of the old rural and indeed urban voters that backed FG come what may.

    And the smart ones are leaving some overly ambitious eejit to deal with the subsequent sh**.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    He pissed off the Israelis by supporting hamas, hes yesterdays man looking for attention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    deleted .. @Ten of Swords



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭scottser


    Christ on a bike, don't tell me Boo-Boo Harris is going to be Taoiseach? You could quite literally shave a chimp, stick it in a suit and it would do a better job than that utter, utter charlatan.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,467 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Mod - Can you discuss Paddy Cosgrave in the below linked thread. Unless he has said anything definitively linked to the outgoing or incoming Taoiseach then leave it out. So far the insinuations and hints have amounted to nothing and it's clogging up the thread.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058318958/has-paddy-cosgrave-overstepped-the-mark#latest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Well if the lad you're talking about was picking water melons I can probably see why he probably couldn't do it. My nephew is a shuttering carpenter and made money he could only dream of here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    ....

    Edit: sorry, didn't see Mod note above. Deleted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,010 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Ask Liz Truss how that worked out for her?

    People want the top job for the prestige. But there is little prestige with taking the job and getting wiped out a few months later, it leaves you a laughing stock not a man of prestige.

    Politicians choosing their timing is nothing new whatsoever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    While I agree with you, who are the ones doing the holding back the Political parties or the mandarins in the Civil Service the like of Watt and a few others?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Financial storm clouds were already gathering when Brian Cowen took over FF leadership in 2008: do you think that is why nobofy else put themselves forward, or was it because the other 'contenders' knew he would have blown them away? And do you think Cowen regrets reaching for the crown at that stage, even though he could have foreseen his tenure was likely to be brief and ill-starred?

    If Coveney in particular thinks he is 'keeping his powder dry' and intends to run for leader at a more opportune moment then I think that's a bad call. He's yesterday's man now, will never be a serious contender again...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭Patser


    I'm not so sure - an internal campaign, with 2 or 3 candidates all taking little snipes at each other while the opposition write down their comments to throw back at them later would probably be a lot worse for them.


    Now, instead, the Dail will go into an Easter break, and when it returns Harris will be there as Taoiseach, with the minimal of fuss, infighting or back stabbing - and FG will claim to be a very united Party under their new unanimous leader.... no, no, no, nothing to see here. Just a fresh face to inspire us going forward.

    That he may very well be the patsy to take a fall later we'll have to wait and see - but there is also an alternative that FG already can see that next year they'll be in opposition, will have a young leader to build around, and in 6 years time will be able to proclaim him as an experienced leader of the country and a viable alternative as to whatever is in play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Paddy Cosgrove is a tool box of the highest order, his exstaff will tell you all you need to know and I think at this stage very person who has been involved with him brought him to court, or close to it

    He had no issue been best mates with FG and Leo till Leo didn't give him the keys to Dublin which he wanted, which would have been a disaster for tax payers but the way Since then his vendetta has got stranger and stranger by the day

    A full thread about him and even him fighting with his poor neighbours now when he bought a house in Donegal, no harm if the guy left Ireland for good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,499 ✭✭✭blackwhite



    It worked out pretty well for the Lettuce all told. She never would have gotten near the job if the UK wasn't in crisis mode and the Tories weren't imploding.

    For evermore she can no peddle herself as "former Prime Minister" and make plenty off the back of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Harris will take the same electoral hiding for FG that was due for Varadkar until he ran away. He's getting coronated because no one wants to be the leader to take the flak.

    Will the electorate somehow warm to Harris in a way they clearly did not with LV? Highly unlikely as Harris comes across as a transition year student on work experience and he's been there for every cut, every incompetence and every piece of nastiness associated with the LV era.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Emer Higgins called it a "Renewal" last night when she was asked if the FG was in crisis on the Tonight Show on Virgin Media. There were a few guffaws from the other panelists when she said that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭amacca


    Its that there's no consequences for anything and a small but increasing number of students are at a frankly incredible level of laziness, petulance and dont see the pointness etc etc


    they mirror the way society has evolved and system has to bend to that to some degree, you cant actually expect much of a standard from them now, its the teachers have the standards now.......I may not agree with everything that poster has to say (I mean that factually as I haven't read much of anything else they have to say) but the JC has been dumbed down massively and I assume the LC will be to some degree as well.....


    its all part of a trend of not being an adult with personal responsibility until you reach increasingly older ages and a certain cohort of the population having no responsibilities or meaningful consequences at all if they are too much trouble to deal with and are useful as an income generator for other cohorts of society while getting handouts from yet another cohort.........



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,789 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    FG will emerge like a phoenix from the flames from this. Said no one ever. I am not sure our political system, justice system, ... can keep up with all the shenanigans presented to it in the Scrolling Age.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,010 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Tony Blair used to make a million a month, he was able to quote 330k for a 20 minute speech. Go look at the likes of Gordon Brown and see what they make per speech.

    A former PM only making 250k a year makes my point more than it does yours, Liz Truss is bargain bucket relative to her peers, all because of her timing.

    The original point was about why some people didn't want the job now, why they would wait for better timing, and somebody said politicians would always take the job if they could.

    Showing that Truss made a balls of it just reinforces my point made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    I think we should all have a minutes silence and think about all the poor people on twitter/tiktok/social media who whole lives rotated around what was going on with Leo and now today are looking forward to a bleak bleak future of not sure who or what to latch onto next to make their lives worthwhile.


    Some really really sad videos and post been made at the moment as they scramble for meaning in their lives

    5, 4, 3,.......



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