What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

bog master · 18-03-2024 03:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909107#Comment_121909107

Yeah but TFG will stay at rear, as the bone spurs won't allow him to get near the action!

Leroy42 · 18-03-2024 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909107#Comment_121909107

So obvious that Trump had to send a spokesman out to clarify the remarks!

briany · 18-03-2024 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909128#Comment_121909128

"Is this where society is now?"

Basically, yes. Looking at it a bit more closely, there are a few things going on, here. Big chunks of the population here throughout the West have never seen their living standards recover since the 2008 recession and that's on top of local industry having been gutted since the mid 20th century. In short, austerity has created a reservoir of anger that's ripe for populists to tap into. It's an anger the political centre has been unable to, or refused to, deal with in a real and effective manner, pushing people toward political extremism. It's something we've seen happen before.

At the same time, people have never had easier access to information, but by the same token have never had easier access to misinformation and disinformation which, conveniently enough, caters very specifically to their pre-existing biases and prejudices.

Capitalism has a bit of a role to play, here, as well. News networks in the states and throughout the world have bombarded us with a 24 hour news cycle and social media sites have an insatiable thirst for clicks. Chatter about Trump's insanity is so constant that it has become normalised. If we were still in the world of newspapers and nightly news bulletins, reports of him being under federal indictments would carry far more weight. Now, it's just an afterthought.

In a way, we kind of did this to ourselves, but we didn't know what we were doing at the time.

gneel · 18-03-2024 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909114#Comment_121909114

What are you talking about? Mad? Whataboutism?

Looking at the video in your link again, the clip is pretty shocking obviously. It's supposed to be.

The irony of the woman after saying that it was unclear what Trump was referring to. Yes, it's unclear when you remove the context. Here's the context before it: https://youtu.be/_7gJxku_BYM?t=1838

He's clearly referring to the auto industry and the second definition here: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/bloodbath

As I said before, Trump says a lot of awful stuff so it's frustrating to see a whirlwind being fabricated.

everlast75 · 18-03-2024 04:07PM

https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1769737864642748706?s=20

Grab him by his properties!

Leroy42 · 18-03-2024 04:13PM

Ah yes, it is everyone else's fault for listening to what Trump says and taking those words to mean what they say.

As usual. Everyone has to give Trump licence as he clearly can't be expected to actually say what he means.

Did he expand on this Auto makers bloodbath? What will happen if Biden continues in office to start this bloodbath and what is Trump going to do to avoid it?

everlast75 · 18-03-2024 04:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909335#Comment_121909335

Yes, the "bloodbath" referred to the auto industry....

In a speech which started off calling Jan 6 prisoners "hostages" and praising what they did.

Overheal · 18-03-2024 04:29PM

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — That’s going to be the least of it,” said Trump. “It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.”

the whole country, not “the auto industry” and “that’s going to be the least of it”

amandstu · 18-03-2024 04:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909335#Comment_121909335

I assumed he was saying two things at once.Using the auto industry to get in his threat to cause violence if he did not win the election.

I can't see how "bloodbath" would be appropriate language to use for when (he says) an industry is in trouble.

Did the miners (Scargill) threaten anything like a "bloodbath" scenario at the time even though that actually happened ?

He is just shoehorning violent language whenever he can because he thinks it works for him.

In his "speech" he did apply "bloodbath " to the industry and then clarified that he was talking about the "country" as well.

What do they about him? Believe it when he says it the first time.

I think he flies kites and if it works he goes with it and hardly ever retracts unless it is obviously not in his interest.

I see he has now "admitted" that Putin was "probably involved" in the death of Navalny.

I wonder why?

Of course we know that Putin murdered Navalny ,but Trump loves the uneducated,from his own boastful lips.

banie01 · 18-03-2024 04:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909317#Comment_121909317

Fuller story here.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/mar/18/government-shutdown-biden-trump-election-latest-updates

Bond underwriters being very clear, they don't want properties as collateral, it's cash or equivalents only.

If the actuaries at the underwriters don't trust a billionaire? Why should anyone else. I saw his gofundme has also died a death too.

pixelburp · 18-03-2024 04:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909406#Comment_121909406

Who can blame them? A case that revealed Trump's properties were already overvalued has made them toxic. What a fool.

So, if you can't post a bond, or pay or appeal - what then? Even in a civil case could someone can't or won't pay go to jail? In theory cos ain't happening with Trump of course.

banie01 · 18-03-2024 04:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909412#Comment_121909412

Oh I fully agree, no trust whatsoever should be placed in any valuation proffered by Trump. The bond he is seeking is to cover a case that's seen him already convicted of fraud and financial misrepresentation over decades.

If he can't offer liquid assets as a guarantee nor find someone willing to assume the bond risk? Tough.

If he can't post the bond required for appeal, the plaintiff can seek immediate action including asset seizure. E Jean Carroll has won the case. If Trump wants to appeal? He's gotta pay to play. If he doesn't? Enforcement and seizure would follow.

Overheal · 18-03-2024 04:59PM

She’s ready to help you auction off some property to make ends meet Donny

Bob Marley Park · 18-03-2024 05:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909378#Comment_121909378

That auto Industry excuse is just ridiculous. He also spoke about the election being rigged. He's a dangerous lunatic.

Overheal · 18-03-2024 05:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909539#Comment_121909539

I wasn’t aware the auto industry even held elections. /s

Quin_Dub · 18-03-2024 05:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909412#Comment_121909412

No one will under write the bond because they know he's not good for it. They also know that the net profits from selling his properties won't cover it either which is why they won't accept them as collateral.

Billionaire my arse...

NY should just seize everything and I mean everything, and fire sale the lot.

Likely won't cover the entire amount but as long as they take every single penny he has it won't really matter.

silverharp · 18-03-2024 05:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909378#Comment_121909378

falling for the latest hoax, lol, its funny at this stage

banie01 · 18-03-2024 06:19PM

Credit to u/Schoseff over on reddit

nachouser · 18-03-2024 06:39PM

I'd say Jared has a few missed +966 area code calls this morning.

Water John · 18-03-2024 07:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909848#Comment_121909848

Indeed, it will say a lot if none of the family will bale him out.

Stanley 1 · 18-03-2024 07:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909406#Comment_121909406

Taking the monies quick so he does not have to return.

LambshankRedemption · 18-03-2024 07:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121909412#Comment_121909412

Maybe his FSB handler can give him a dig out?

everlast75 · 18-03-2024 08:32PM

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1769809772860125422?s=20

Russia Russia Russia, 2024 edition

everlast75 · 18-03-2024 09:51PM

Speaking of other Trump criminals...

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1769809772860125422?s=20

* Wrong link

Navaro is going to jail. SCOTUS declined to take the case.

banie01 · 18-03-2024 10:45PM

It's not been a great day in Trump world has it. The NY hush money and election interference pre trial motions were resolved today, and not a lot for Don to be cheerful about.

https://twitter.com/NormEisen/status/1769832965096243343?t=6zvIHK_Hi479Ttl_xMC92w&s=19

Overheal · 18-03-2024 10:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121910840#Comment_121910840

Motion to preclude Cohen's testimony: DENIED

Motion to preclude The People from arguing Trump sought to improperly influence 2016 election: DENIED

Motion to preclude arguments on element of intent to defraud: DENIED

Motion to preclude evidence on 'catch and kill' scheme: DENIED

Motion to Preclude testimony from Dino Sajudin, Karen McDougal and Stephanie Clifford: DENIED (GRANTED preclusion of polygraph results from Stephanie Clifford aka. Stormy Daniels)

Motion to preclude Access Hollywood tape: DENIED

Motion to Preclude the People from arguing violations of FECA: DENIED

Motion to preclude 3rd party evidence of admissions of FECA violations: granted to extent and with caveats

Motion to preclude evidence of AMI's books and records: DENIED

Motion to preclude evidence and argument that Trump and his Trust is the "enterprise" (in the alleged crimes): DENIED

Motion to preclude notes by Allen Weisselberg: Reserved, The People must provide proper foundation

Motion to preclude Giuliani evidence: Moot, The People do not intend to reference it

Motion to preclude some 100 statements attributed to Trump: DENIED

Motion to require The People to disclose a "realistic exhibit list": the court throws shade in pointing out "Rather, the People suggest that whatever disorganization there may appear to be is of Defendant's own doing or due to Defendant's failure to properly navigate the evidence and the list. This Court accepts the People's representations and directs the People to continue, as they have done so, to update the Defendant on any changes..."

Overheal · 18-03-2024 11:40PM

Navarro's plea to SCOTUS is denied in 1 page order by Roberts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/18/navarro-supreme-court-prison-report/

In denying Navarro’s request on Monday, Roberts agreed with the appeals court finding that Navarro had given up the right at this stage to challenge the District Court’s conclusion that executive privilege was not invoked.

See ya tomorrow Peter!