Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

He is lashing out because the referendums didn't get passed and he has been made look a idiot again. He did this previously after the general election when his party finished third, he was throwing his toys out of his pram until Michael came begging.

problem is professional politicians don't have any core beliefs (apart from SF and united ireland)

they may be left or right leaning but they will just go with the flow and as you said its just career progression to move to Europe.

but any altruism for the country or its people seemed to have gone.

any thoughts that politicians were actually public servants (whether you agree with them or not) seems to have disappeared in the 60's and 70's.

And you're ignoring the failures of the government by putting these men in the tents.

It's government policy to put them into tents.

Where's your anger about this?

I'm not at all ignoring it. Depending on private hotels for so long has been a terrible idea, destined to failure.

It's been especially clear since the beginning of the Ukraine war that large-scale state provided accommodation was required.

It's also been clear for a decade now that we need to increase the supply of housing in general in this country. If anger doesn't come across in my posts it's because I'm as much worn out by years and years of failure and waste in this country. What's worse now is that any hope we had of turning things around and moving in the right direction is also likely to be p****d away on votes for anti-immigration candidates who'll only support another FFG government.

Surely one possible solution at this point to either refuse entry or deport people immediately. I would think this is a reasonable opinion to have now.

I’m fed up listening to RTE and their woke buddies tell us every evening about “those poor men on mount street”…. Jennifer Whitmore is one of the regulars on RTE most evenings crying into her latte. Most of these “poor men” are economic opportunists from Pakistan and similar locations, maybe Jennifer could invite them all down to greystones. I agree with the council in not providing portaloos on the street as it would “normalise” the situation. House those 200 (or whatever) and another 200 will replace them and so it goes infinitum. Enough is enough, we are being scammed, by these “poor men”, by RTE and their cohort of bleeding heart political friends. To greystones or hell.

If only we didn’t have a big ocean between us and the rest of the world… oh wait.

Any proof of your right wing thug theory? If not any idea where one can join the right wing? Any right wing websites? Any right wing leaflets? It’s not illegal to be right leaning in politics so surly there are some politicians standing on a right leaning platform? Is there anything at all to back up this right wing meanace we are being told about? Because obviously some people incapable of free think are gobbling it up. Oh wait… never mind I see a column of lads in brown shirts going down the road here walking like geese.

This.

I spent time in Korea, Taiwan and Japan.

If I had to explain the situation in Ireland to them I don't think they'd understand at all. It would be an alien concept.

It would be a bit like trying to explain mandatory closing times in pubs.

(Something they don't have)

What? You don't simply deport?

What Asian countries don't have this problem? Do people seek asylum there?

Australia has pretty much stopped everyone but pre-approved asylum seekers, which wouldn't be possible here with the six counties, etc.

As you'll see from earlier in the thread, immigration is still the hot topic politically there. Reports that they have a huge amount of undocumented migration and organized crime problems related to facilitating this.

The Economy will "right size" to the population and commercial output of the country, doesn't always have to expand as the end cycle of that is a Boom-Bust period like we get in Europe every few years.

As for "population is in catastrophic free-fall" hardly!... The numbers will balance out and services such as health, education, infrastructure and housing will mean each citizen will have access to good quality services and won't have to fight with Global investment funds for a place to live like we do here..

The Japanese are also way ahead of Ireland and Europe in terms of robotics and automation, and creating A.I based systems so jobs like vehicle Drivers, food servers, factory/warehouse workers, call centres etc etc will become obsolete there in the next few years..

Although once A.I and automation catches up here then there's going to be vast numbers of people out of work and most could be from the thousands of unskilled migrants coming into the country now...

Can you attempt to tackle my second paragraph?

Not just the border to the North, even if that were not there we'd still have to contend with dealing with undocumented migrants coming through other channels and the consequences that come with that.

We don't have to build more housing for all future immigrants as I'm aware, as there's an EU policy to provide funding in lieu for resettlement in other European countries.

In the longer term we and other wealthy countries need to start looking at the push factors that are causing people to emigrate from the global south in the first place. Turning to failed approaches or doing nothing isn't the answer.

You keep coming back to this.

No right thinking person agrees with the burning down of buildings.

The main focus of your anger should be at the government if you believe refugees are welcome and should be given accommodation.

Thought Jim O Callaghan spoke a bit of sense on Drivetime today when he said we need to get on top of the numbers coming here because there is no accommodation available and the reality is if a few hundred a week keep coming they will be outside in tents.

He also said we need to expand the number of safe countries on the list to bring us in line with other EU member states.

Of course they also had Cian O Callaghan from the SDs losing his marbles when this was mentioned.

Even if they could magic up 100,000 houses a year at this stage it wouldn't be enough.

I'd bet the house most of the men in those tents are economic migrants so the immigration department responsible for making decisions on this need to start deporting the ones would have no right to be here and end this crap where they can appeal multiple times and we foot the bill for it.

They also need to get a handle on people showing up with no documents.

All these things are doable if we only had Ministers who are prepared to do the job we pay them for.

Keep going the way they are and this "far right" boogeyman the Government and NGOs keep talking about really will appear in the Dail because people are sick of this open border policy and will vote for candidates they think are listening to their concerns about immigration.