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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Mullinabreena


    In the old kingdom of Connacht in what is mainly County Sligo now, but part of Mayo too. This area was called lochtar Connacht meaning lower Connacht. Maybe its because the Tuatha of Luighne which made up a large part of Iochtar Connacht was a 'Fortuatha' which were kingdoms not ruled directly by members of the dominant dynasty of a province.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Edison Late Hermit


    Used to confuse the life out of my when I was a kid why Upper Egypt was to the south and Lower Egypt was to the north.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Eastern/Western hemispheres are no more (or less) needed than splitting the earth into northern and southern hemispheres. What is undoubtedly needed is to know where we are. In order to achieve that we need both latitude and longitude. Although the earth's rotation gives us a convenient and natural Y-axis, the X-axis is no less important for having an artificial origin.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Ah, I know - I just thought they were humorous

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,710 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    I know Bavaria at least is similar to Egypt with upper and lower being in relation to the river, lower near the mouth of the river and upper the source.

    edit:

    oops hadn't seen the replies that this was already mentioned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,444 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Is it saying that the North of Ireland is further north than Northern Ireland? Or is it about the unresolved demarcation line in Lough Foyle?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 28,440 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I'm guessing the former. Nobody would post a graphic like that on Twitter expecting people to recognise an allusion to a fairly obscure boundary dispute.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,422 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    also the same as naming of streets. lower being the street or section nearer the river.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,444 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,994 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Yes indeed, such as Lower Saxony in Northern Germany being further north than Saxony in the southeast of the former DDR, bordering Czechia and Poland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,713 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    image.jpeg

    Map of moon landings .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,649 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    ^'Surveyor (not all shown...)'

    Only learned this the other day, but Apollo 12 landed about 600 feet from the Surveyor 3 site


    "more than two years after it landed on the moon with the goal of paving the way for a future human mission, the Surveyor 3 spacecraft got a visit from Apollo 12 Commander Charles Conrad Jr. and astronaut Alan L. Bean, who snapped this photo on November 20, 1969." (Apollo 12 Lunar Module in background)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 14,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,713 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭Yoshimi79


    Some of those time zones are crazy, eg. China. If you walked along the north border of China from west to east you'd stay in the same time zone. If you did the same walk 1 metre north of the border you'd cross through 6 time zones



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,303 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Australia in the west?

    There's no way you haven't heard of Greenwich/GMT and the timezones. I think you are just having trouble visualisting that in 3 dimensions. It's pretty common knowledge I'd have thought.

    I'd argue that time zones, and more importantly, the international date line, have clear scientific and geographic basis.

    Why do we need northern and southern hemispheres? They serve no purpose other than establishing demarcation. East and west and no different.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,422 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    "I'd argue that time zones, and more importantly, the international date line, have clear scientific and geographic basis."

    Whatever reason for the choice of the international date line, I don't see one you could say was scientific. IIRC there was a tussle between England and France to have their choice of location picked and England clearly won. The location is a political/historical choice, not a scientific or geographic one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Qaanaaq


    I think the "The West" "Western world" "Western Hemisphere" are probably American invented terms that they promoted over the years and has stuck, even though it is just a political invention.

    The East was the USSR, Warsaw pact countries and Communist China. But even though there are a number of so called western world countries geographically in the east, such as Switzerland, Denmark, Netherlands etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭xabi


    It doesn't, its more a case of, the North is to the South the and South is to the North when in Lough Foyle.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Edison Late Hermit


    I think the Romans are actually to blame for the whole "The West" thing. Something to do with Latin.

    But from a geographical standpoint, the only European counties that are actually entirely in the western hemisphere are Iceland, Ireland and Portugal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,932 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I don't think so. Phrases like occident and orient long pre-date 'American' terms. I suspect it certainly goes beyond Roman times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I've only heard of Australia being regarded as a western country. Of course that's a cultural/political reference but I can't say I've ever heard, or read about Australia being in the east or eastern hemisphere, and I think that's because there is not really such a thing in most people's minds.

    Yes, we all know about time zones and that it starts at zero in Greenwich but that doesn't mean most people view that line as dividing the globe into a western and eastern half.

    The vast majority will use 'western' to refer to a group of countries scattered around the planet who tend to align politically. We refer to eastern Europe because it's in the eastern parts of Europe; the middle and far east similarly because of proximity to Europe. There's nobody saying let's go on holiday to the eastern country of Belgium.

    I agree with the guy above who said we need to have a starting point for timezones, so yeah, that's obviously a good point for why a line is needed but doesn't mean it's necessarily a dividing line into two spheres.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I think you could say there's a scientific need for it but not a scientific reason why it's located where it is. There isn't a geographic reason unless you include politics. And lets face it, most maps include boundaries between countries which were formed based on politics rather than a natural features. Depending on whether or not you include politics, you could say there is or is not a geographical reason for it being there. Personally, I wouldn't have included politics but I won't argue with someone who dis.


    Anyways, Everyone can we get back to cool maps?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Evade


    There's a newer term "global south" which excludes Australia and New Zealand too despite them clearly being in the south.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 56,422 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's not a geographic term though, it's an economic one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Evade


    Western world is more political than geographic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    The hemisphere things make some sense. As does making an arbitrary line of 0 somewhere. It would make a lot more sense if it went from 0-360 and dropped the East and West, but that's the way it is. Also latitudes would be easier if they just picked one of the poles and started at 0, rather than having a N and S.

    It assists in navigation and that's why it's vital.

    The East/West/Westernised monikers are just political and socio-economic descriptions. These can change, and your country can move from one to another depending on its economic standings. It's sometimes replaced with 'Global North' and used to be 'First World, Second World, Third World'. New decades will bring new names and new alignments.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,303 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    There were many meridians used over the centuries. Often based on limited world knowledges (it was west of Iceland in the Middle Ages). The international date line as the anti-meridian to Greenwich, is in the middle of the pacific.

    Many other meridians would have put the date line on a land mass. That’d mean it’s Tuesday in one place, in the next town over it’s still Monday. that’s obviously less practical.

    Co-ordinating the date line with the works largest body of water rather than a land mass is a geographic consideration.



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