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March 8th - What’s your vote? **Mod Note In Post #677**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I apologize. You did not use the word uneducated. I jumped too soon. You said undecided. I will edit my response



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Voting YES for both

    Look, the government completely fucked this up, they thought people would vote on this minor change that doesn't affect most people without much campaigning. They were wrong. People were annoyed that there was almost zero effort put in from any of the political parties and so most people didn't vote, and of those that did, some of them voted no because they didn't see any benefit from voting yes

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Voting NO for both

    I’d say between the poor wording, poor scheduling and level of distain for this government because of housing etc they were always up against it with this referendum. Solve one or 2 of the big issues or at least be seen to be trying to solve them and it would have probably sailed through. General election is going to be intriguing. Sinn Fein doing themselves no favours at all aligning themselves with government on some big issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,549 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Voting NO for both

    Ah well, what will the government let us vote on next I wonder to keep us distracted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 331 ✭✭Kildare787


    Lol Boyles wouldn't let me do a double online so went into the shop and they sent it to traders and said no problem. Hope I get the 6 to 4 price it works out at. Will pay for the Chinese tonight :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,549 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Voting NO for both

    I think because of the swing vote, they are going to put swingers into the constitution instead of durable relationships. 😁😁😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Scipri0


    Voting NO for both

    Nothing that actually helps the people. . Where's that water referendum?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,727 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I think they'll regret running these on International Women's Day now or will they just say we need International Women's Day because Ireland hates women.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Voting NO for both

    So give us your examples of posters here who were 'confused' in your words.

    Granted there will be many differing views as to why they had reservations and chose to err on the side of caution.

    But just because you think their views were fallacious means nothing more than they didn't agree with you. No confusion at all on the whole.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Voting NO for both

    I agree. In big EU constituencies the candidates will be returned based on party policy and it's hard to see many mainstream candidates getting back. Looks like we will be sending more independents.

    Locals they might fare a little better as the candidates will be known personally to a lot of voters. A few from the parties on the right fringe can expect some success.

    I personally think it was the AS centre issue that was the straw that broke the camels back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭KevMayo88


    Voting NO for both

    They have been beating the "confustion" drum all morning. How come "confusion" only works one way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    Voting NO for both

    No amount of effort could have convinced the people to vote to put ambiguous words and phrases into the constitution that even the government's own atourney general advised against.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭Seamus4life


    Voting NO for both

    Because the left are always right



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,863 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Voting NO for both

    No confusion my end! Was 100% opposed due to the content. I’d imagine same as per vast majority of people too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Voting NO for both

    The idea that no voters were "confused" is taking hold everywhere today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Voting NO for both

    Well it appears that boards is a fair reflection of the general population and that we are not all "pale, male and stale"....or "angry middle aged men"....

    Boards was the best poll and gauge of public opinion.......

    Congrats to all No voters.....we wont be up in Dublin Castle with our flags and all that carry on.......but we certainly have dealt a bloody nose to this government.......a clear message has been sent to any future government....they will think twice about wasting our time on such nonsense again.......

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    This “what went wrong” and people (god love them) were “confused” is an absolute crock a Sh1t being pedalled by arrogance.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,806 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Voting NO for both

    For the "Care" part I voted No. Having been a carer and having worked with the excellent people who are profession carers : for the state to in any way imagine it had any credibility on the subject having starved the sector of funds for decades was beyond belief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    Voting NO for both

    Humble pie? Bacik has already been on saying that when people resoundingly said 'No' to one of the referenda, they "clearly" wanted to say yes but just didn't like the wording.


    The arrogance!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭KevMayo88


    Voting NO for both

    "they will think twice about wasting our time on such nonsense again"- I don't know about that, I've seen several politicians already suggest a re-run. The arrogance of these people is simply mind-boggling. Why are these nonsense word-salad referendums so important to them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    I’m no fan of Michael mcdowell, but every time he was interviewed about the referendum he exposed the Govt and yes campaign for the straw man it was. Totally unnecessary referendum and monumental waste of money, not to mention cack handed and unintelligible wording…it would appear that the people have spoken….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Voting NO for both

    This is a major wake up call.

    There is a huge gulf between people and politicians. Peoples tolerance for being told what to think and do us breached, we are tired of being told what's best for us.

    Political parties need to listen and reflect what people think and want, it's that simple.

    The government did not need to run this, they then ran it badly, and assumed their lead would be followed. They got it badly wrong, but the opposition are clearly just as out of touch, rowing in behind the government.

    It's a very interesting time for politics in Ireland, that's for sure.



  • Posts: 24,009 Cecelia Jolly Rifle


    lol lol lol

    we bow to your superior intellect 🤣🤣🤣

    I can understand to an extent people voting yes in first ballot paper, but to vote yes to conceding the state owes you no care is dumbfũck to say the least. I presume your cohort have a live-up of adoring relatives waiting to wash your backside when you can no longer do it yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Awful awful people. So anytime in a democracy when a vote goes against what the government and parties proposes it needs to be explained/rejected based off people getting it wrong. It really is galling. Do these people have an iota of what democracy is?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Voting NO for both

    Looks like it's the no side that went out to vote yesterday while the yes crowd stayed at home and took it for granted the referendum would pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭KevMayo88


    Voting NO for both

    Probably enjoying their Chai lattes before pilattes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Eamon Ryan said the government would respect the vote… wow, so good of him. For now!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,669 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Well if all the people coming out of the polling stations say they voted no because the new wording wasn't good enough then the democratic thing to do is to run with better wording.

    Very few people straight up saying they like the constitution as it is.



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  • Posts: 24,009 Cecelia Jolly Rifle


    The Boards.ie “pale make stake” cohort are essentially misogynistic at heart, though probably not consciously so, as they completely misinterpret that a lot of posters appear to be make by virtue of their username, phraseology and opinions. Very presumptive of what women are at heart. Completely backward men themselves. One reason I have my own picture on profile, I’m proud to assert myself as a feminine appearing female poster often with what are considered male traits. I don’t fit stereotypes.



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