VW ID.3

Also much nicer and more engaging to drive in my experience.

100%. I've driven the 3, 4 & 5 and found the ID4 to be the least impressive.

I think per KCross the HV battery content when new is 55.8kWh/56kWh. I would tend to agree with this as logically if you take out the buffers of 6.2kWh what you're left with is your available energy 100% down to 0%

My result on a new ID.3 using carscanner showed 58kWh for the "max energy" (see below). That isnt all available to you though in case thats what you meant. When VW say 58kWh usable they dont mean usable by the owner!

The Leaf BMS is fine. Its job is to protect the battery as best it can and it does that.

The lack of heating/cooling in the Leaf is often mentioned on here but in my view that isnt the main reason for Leaf battery degradation. The main reason is simply the chemistry of their batteries. They are not as good as the competitors. Nissan did not advance their battery tech much.

For the Leaf to have battery heating and cooling only really matters in a hot climate where the battery would regularly overheat. In general, its not an issue here because of our climate. You can heat the Leaf battery to the point where the BMS has to throttle charge speed (aka rapidgate) to allow it to cool, but that doesnt cause degradation it just causes frustration for the owner.

The majority of degradation in the Leaf battery is time based. At least thats my experience of it. After 5yrs mine was at ~15% degradation I think. If it had a battery heater/cooler it would have made no difference as the battery never overheated anyway (well, maybe once when I DC charged a bunch of times on the way back from the UK).

Thats probably OK too as long as you have recently taken the car to <10% and charged to 100%. Then take the readings. Calculating degradation is not an exact science as you will get different results on different days but it should be in the same ball park... large or quick drops would be the red flags for a problem.

Maybe so but it just didn't feel as smooth and comfortable to me. I was a bit underwhelmed.

The battery has not been abused, maybe a DC charge on average once per month. And when I do it tends to be only 15 or 20% added.

The rest of my charging is at home, the car is normally at between 50 and 80% charge.

The point about doing it at a higher temp is worth a try to see if there is a difference.

Just to say I wasn't inferring that you might have abused it but before you got the car is it possible it was sitting for a while fully charged at the dealer or something? Being 3.5 years old with significant mileage- 86k the degradation is unlikely to be small. However given your charging practice you are careful with the battery- So I would definitely be inclined to have a go at more readings- in particular can you get any readings for battery energy content at 50kWh or above. An averaged reading at or close to 50kWh might not be a bad result.

1st editions were only 58kWh with 204hp. Majority were register in 2020 so 202 but some were 211.

To cover loads of the last posts.

Id3 17kwh/100

1d4 20kwh/100 my old lad has one

Id3 way nicer as a car than id4

Id5 ? WTF ?,an SUV "coupe" jist wtf ?

P.S. I despise SUVS,this is why I have a 30year old trooper and a car

Leaf 40 nice car very good value but obselete....my 20 yr old has an sve

60 leaf wouldn't be a parch on id3 range wise

Range/value I can't think of better than 77 id3 either

Pure bald efficiency?,still the 28ioniq

14kwh/100 typical had one.of them too

Pure value for money ?

New e-up wife has one

Used Zoe had 2

If VW hadn't given me 0% and stupid trade ins I'd have bought an Ioniq 5

Next car used ioniq6 if I can get over the looks or new seal,unless VW come up trps again

We just became a two EV household. My wife bought an ID.3 Life 204 BHP model to go with my ID.4. After driving the ID.3 today, I realised that I had forgotten how nice it is to drive. The power at 204 BHP is so much more responsive than my 174 BHP ID.4. ID.3 is brilliant off the line compared to the id.4

... Or you didn't want to be driving around in oversized shopping basket when there's normally only one person in the car for 90% of the time who does longer journeys.