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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭ooter


    Pretty sure I saw DF earlier in a cafe I was having lunch in, if it wasn't her it was her twin. She looked perfectly fine to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Dee Watch, I though I saw her driving a car a week ago, in the Midlands region :)

    I assume your down in Cork?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Worst of all worlds as if they're not on the campus they are not protected by privilege. They'd say nothing anyway but it gives them an easy out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭ooter




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    Just watching High Road Low Road with 2 fair city actors been sent to Tokyo. One staying in a €4000 euro a night hotel. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I'd say they aren't paying that. Probably publicity and Advertising covers it..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Martin has just cost us the taxpayers €4M





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Why not subscription service for rte? Why should those of us who don't watch it yet don't feel able to deal with standing in a court room be forced to pay for a tv licence?

    Time and again this crowd have weasled money from the government to fund their lifestyle.

    I'm not optimistic enough to think anything will ever change with them.



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  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My father was asking me about the fine, why we were fined and who was responsible.

    I hold him it must have been Martin's job. Looks like I was correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭bigroad


    She definitely is an expensive minister to have around.

    Her so called advisers aren't worth a f,,k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭tom23


    The whole fecking green party is expensive to have around. A pain in the bollox. I hope to god they get wiped. Not one returned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    I hope she never gets an easy time in public again.

    I hope people tell her, daily, that she needs to front up and answer questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Because it's income would be a fraction of its current level and it would be forced to gut programming in 'noncommercial' fields like arts, documentaries and Irish language. You can't fund a true, comprehensive public service broadcasting service by voluntary subscription. Not in a country the size of Ireland anyway...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭TruthorBust


    Forbes is giving all of us the 2 fingers and it’s past time she was dragged in and held to accounts. Sick……..my hole



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,770 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande



    Why not? why not crowd funding? Run it on the same model as a club, like the UK's national trust or here in Ireland, the GAA. The membership will provide feedback on what they want to see and fund and the leadership is going to be held accountable to it's membership. Such an organisation are never going to compete with the likes of Netflix, and why do that? They will work with the available resources they have and cut out their own niche in the Irish market or they will die, one would logically conclude with enthusiastic club members that they would think outside the box. How many sports activities is the GAA competing with? It's members often take part in other sporting activities like soccer or golf, why do we need to be locked into an organisation like RTE locked into a model that disappeared decades ago? Look at what is happening on youtube, people starting off with a headset, honing their skills, getting better at presentation, upping their audio and production quality responding directly to feedback and the youtube algorithms.

    Take skills based activities like fixing cars, woodworking or gardening, even music since you mentioned the arts, I want to know how to do these things and I can find content from people based around the world including Ireland, some of it is dross, more of it is really good and relevant. You can see the effect youtube (and others) have had on BBC programs like Gardeners World because you can find the archival programs from Geoff Hamiltons era (pre-Internet) versus the current Monty Don era. Hamilton had the practical content I want to see, Don is all style over substance and lacks the skill development aspect plus it's a gardening program pushing "the message" when it has no need to. I can't watch that program, I assume the producers realise there are a lot of enthusiastic gardeners catering to this market, so they have changed focus. Youtube is an example of a commercial organisation that provides a public service, it does not do it for free and there are things that annoy me about its service. Which is why I ask the question what is public service broadcasting meant to be.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,699 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Michael O'Leary called Martin and Ryan dunces yesterday over passenger cap.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,699 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Leo and Michael are loving that the Greens and RTE are taking the focus off the massive problems (health, housing, immigration etc).

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭csirl


    Should the thread title be changed to:

    "Backhurst megaphoning about RTE funding"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,557 ✭✭✭jmcc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Not that I'm a fan of O'leary but they were lucky he only called them that. I can think of much worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    please,dude...the prefered nomeculture is "gobshites"

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    But they cut in these areas anyway. I don't support subscriptions but the little give to "noncommerical" area of RTÉ is nothing to write home about. Only for RnaG and RTÉ requirement for the service do they spend on Irish Language. But there are little to no Arts programmes on RTÉ, while Documentries come and go (with the exception of Radio I will grant you). TV has very little to offer.

    Dr PJ Mathews who's 2nd term decided to resign from the board with just 9 months left in his term. He says its due to work commitments but its funny how for the last 9 years and 3 months he was able to committee to RTÉ's board.

    It also sounds like he didn't meet with the minister with the rest of the board.



    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,151 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I think you know the reason why not. Not enough people would pay a subscription for public service broadcasting for a subscription based PSB to be viable. An argument for a subscription based psb in Ireland is an argument for no psb in Ireland.

    There is genuine value in some elements of PSB. I personally think it is important to have a state news service. Really, that's it. Sport and the arts should be able to wash it's own face.

    Lots of talk about reforming the funding model but note no one with power or privilege is talking about deep structural change to RTE. The obvious reform to win trust back is to split it up into several entities that stand by themselves and be let fail if necessary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Is there any reason to believe the deep structural changes required can't happen without shaking the other public services which operate on a similar model at corporate level.

    When Irish Water was being setup they chose Bord Gáis as the corporate model to copy. Is electric Ireland, IGB, HRI etc operating on a similar model. So now ask yourself, if changes are forced on RTE, would it cause issues legally without forcing changes on the other semi states. Relatively recent news on HRI and IGB board payouts suggests similar structure. IE and BG I don't know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Structural changes at the service provision level I think we are talking about. What services / content do they provide?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,770 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande



    The current model run by RTE is expensive and has failed for some time needing to be being bailed out by taxpayers. It is time to start from scratch, redefine the "public service" remit and cut cloth to measure. It is not going to be pretty in the early stages, there is a demand among Irish people for local content that interests them and it will get better. With a subscription model people can access the content when they need to and it opens up the possibility of adapting a YouTube model for content creators, it opens up new commercial opportunities. The platform is what matters, subscribers will take care of the content and its funding. It has already been suggested that the transmission infrastructure is split off from the company and the content creation parts split further with the orchestra being offloaded somewhere else.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Change is driven in private companies at board level. Public companies are likely the same except for RTE which appears to be a cushy money collection routine for little return. Culture at the board level will flow down to the middle management and so on. The issue in RTE is not the mechanics is provision of service, although it's online content is poor, it's the management culture and it's corporate structure.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If online content is poor its because broadcast content is also poor. I don't think we will see much change in the culture of RTÉ. I don't think staff in RTÉ realize this.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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