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PK@rte.ie (again). The All New (Patrick Kielty) Late Late Show Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Kielty should have anyone on the show except the same old tedious flow of Republicans he has had on. Kielty does not seem to be able to attract the same calibre of international guest as Gay Byrne did, but that is hardly surprising.

    Why did Kielty not have Emma L.P. on : the 2 joint ministers would have been more interesting to see that just the very soft chat with one. Emma L.P. is no stranger to Dublin, she was here with other DUP politicians for the Rugby match at the weekend.

    Do you really think lightweight neutrals like Nesbitt, Dornan, Frampton etc ( who were on to chat about acting, boxing etc) were the equivalent of "all the Republicans who were on the show and who talked politics"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    " ... were the equivalent of ..."

    I think Francis that you're mistaking the LLS for something that it's not.

    It's supposed to be about entertainment.

    You've made it clear that you think it's biased towards Republicanism (in the NI sense of the word). I don't agree and it seems that we won't agree on this one. I have to say that you've really damaged the credibility of your argument by claiming some sort of conspiracy to get loads of northern republicans into the audience. Have you considered the possibility that maybe the clapping was because some of the audience liked what they heard?

    We have agreed that Emma Little-Pengelly would be an interesting guest although for some reason you don't want to discuss why or what possible questions she could be asked so maybe we'll have to park that as well.

    You've obviously watched the Michelle O'Neill and Stephen Rea interviews with interest so I suppose the LLS is doing its job in the sense that it has engaged (entertained?) you.

    Do you really have to be politically aligned with someone to want to see them interviewed?

    For instance I abhor Trump and all he stands for, but as for entertainment if by some remote chance he was to be interviewed live on the LLS of course I would watch and be entertained by it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You are dealing with another in a long line of Boards.ie posters who think RTE should only be platforming views they agree with or only music they like and only comedians they laugh at. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    You seem to be conceding that the Late Late show ( or Late Republican Show as more than a few call it now ) is not balanced, but because it is for entertainment it is ok.

    I half watched Michelle O'Neill and Stephen Rea, everything they said was so predictable as were the soft questions from Kielty.

    The question remains: why all the Republicans who were on the show and who talked N. Ireland politics?

    Republicans like McLean ( who once wore a balaclava in front of children), McAleese ( who once compared Protestants to Nazis, and who had to publicly apologise), Michelle O'Neill ( who spoke at IRA commemoration and said there was no alternative to the pIRA), Stephen Rea ( Married to Delores Price, convicted pIRA bomber ), Keeecap etc etc ...


    It is not as if the lightweight neutrals like Nesbitt, Dornan, Frampton etc ( who were on to chat about acting, boxing etc) were their equivalent. Yes Kielty had on James Nesbitt ( who describes himself as "an Irishman, from the north of Ireland ) , Jamie Dornan (an avowed atheist) and Carl Frampton (who boxes for Ireland).

    The Late Late - some would say nearly as balanced as a programme from North Korea.

    Is it indicative of the treatment and fair play northern unionists could expect in a U.I.? As someone from south of the border, it is embarrassing to have this as prime time viewing on our national tv station, which is supposed to be reasonably balanced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,221 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    I have to say Francis, I find your method of "discussion" to be quite disingenuous and at times hostile. You appear to just repeat the same old points over and over without even reading, never mind considering an alternative point of view.

    I posted the following: "you think it's biased towards Republicanism (in the NI sense of the word). I don't agree"

    to which you reply: "You seem to be conceding that the Late Late show ( or Late Republican Show as more than a few call it now ) is not balanced" 😮

    Now after pages of cut and paste groundhog posts we find out that "I half watched Michelle O'Neill and Stephen Rea".

    Eh? You didn't even watch all of what you're complaining about???!!!


    I really have tried to engage with you and discuss.

    I've considered the possibility of a DUP guest after you suggested it.

    I've suggested how Kielty would interview her.

    I've asked for your suggestions re. guests if you really believe the guestlist to be unbalanced.

    All that's been posted in return is the same 'ol stuff you've been posting for the past 2 weeks.

    A regular on this thread (Welsh Megaman) has given his considered view above and I think at this stage all I am doing by replying to you is encouraging more of the same.

    I will try my hardest not to reply to your next unoriginal repost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    The reason I thought you seem to be conceding that the Late Late show is not balanced is because you could not disagree with my point that so many of his guests were Republicans. You say because it is for entertainment (you highlighted the word entertainment) it is ok. What about balance? Some would say / have said Nesbitt, Dornan, Frampton have balanced it. I pointed out they were lightweight neutrals who were on to chat about acting, boxing etc, and who did not discuss politics like Kielty's many Republican guests. You did not disagree with that either. I pointed out a few things about James Nesbitt ( who describes himself as "an Irishman, from the north of Ireland ) , Jamie Dornan (an avowed atheist) and Carl Frampton (who boxes for Ireland). You did not disagree with that either. Even a blind man could see that the Late Late show is not balanced and is now as green as can be.

    You wrote I "obviously watched the Michelle O'Neill and Stephen Rea interviews with interest so I suppose the LLS is doing its job in the sense that it has engaged (entertained?) ". I said I half watched them because " everything they said was so predictable as were the soft questions from Kielty.". You complain that I "didn't even watch all of what (I'm) complaining about?" My point was I watched it with one eye, while chatting to others and doing other things. The show certainly did not entertain me. I saw enough to make points about what the guests said.

    I think everyone who is objective and reasonable can only conclude the guest list on this seasons Late Late is very unbalanced with Northerners (republicans) talking about N.I. etc. You constantly attacking me or having a few neutrals on the show like Nesbitt, Dornan or Frampton does not change that.

    If the show was coming from East Belfast and only had loyalists / unionists commentating on political matters, (with a few neutral people on to talk about acting or boxing), I would be equally critical.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Shakyfan


    Kielty does not seem to be able to attract the same calibre of international guest as Gay Byrne did, but that is hardly surprising.

    It must be nearly a quarter of a century since Gay left the programme. Times have changed, television has changed, technology has moved on. There isn't the same need for major celebrities to appear on chat shows for publicity, they can do it via the internet. Yes they will do the likes of Graham Norton on the BBC but shows like that have a much bigger audience which makes it worthwhile. The world has moved on

    ( or Late Republican Show as more than a few call it now )

    Who the **** calls it that? The only person who has used that expression is you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Byrne really let himself down with the Adam’s slot. Refused to shake the man’s hand if I recall. Showed a real contempt, which was very unprofessional.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭thereiver


    All the big celebs go on the graham Norton show also all the American talk shows are all on YouTube

    in 2024 it makes no sense for most celebrities to go to Dublin to appear on the late late show most celebs appear on talk shows to promote their film or a tv show from now on most of the guests on the late late will be Irish or else random UK actors comedians

    I'd say most late late viewers are over 40 or else people who only have saorview tv channels

    Of course the Xmas toy show late late still gets high ratings people watch Netflix or else have a choice of streaming tv channels



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Byrne could be as biased as the best of them on a range of stuff. It was a part of who he was. He was a consummate presenter/interviewer in the old school mode. But no point turning him into something he wasn't.

    This is absolutely true. There is a celeb circuit now that doesn't extend to here. That's the reality.

    The celeb range of characters has narrowed too, there is a sameness and a predictability to them now, especially the US version of the celeb.

    I have lost interest in Norton as a result, he's got very stale and boring frankly with the 'starter for ten' questions and the stories you just know are PRed and rehearsed to death.

    BBC 4 (I think) are re-running full Parky shows, still absolutely brilliant TV. There was one a while ago with poet Laureate John Betjeman, a young Maggie Smith and Kenneth Williams which was riveting viewing. No frills, no red chair novelties just individual interviews first and then all of them talked to each other, no holds barred (Parky and Williams arguing about trade unionism, Betjeman just being a fascinating human being and Maggie Smith showing why she is still a quality act. Like Gaybo's content and style, you just would not get it today anywhere, sadly.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,973 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Agreed times have changed.

    Even Saorview only folk can get Graham Norton on V1, so they can see the actors promoting there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think Graham Norton has been on TV3 since before Saorview. It an ITV studios production for the BBC. It doesn't air on Friday Night, I think only UTV Ireland put it up against TLLS but TV3 have always had it a day later, though perhaps this has changed. It doesn't get a great audience numbers.

    Also the Chat Show as a format is largely dying. Did anyone notice them when the left they air in the US during the writers strike?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭Radio5


    Siun ni Raghallaigh might be an interesting guest. Very unlikely I know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,221 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    ST. DAVID’S DAY KITTEHS EH PUPPEHS!! 🙂


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Any rumours of guests or topic for tonight ... who has been spotted in the RTE canteen or its northern annex on the Falls Road :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Never heard of him.

    I think Patrick should get Tubrity back as a guest, would be interesting. Patrick could ask where is the best place over in London in which to drop in his C.V.

    Poor old Tubs, imagine going from 500k a year in RTE, and living out near Dalkey / that direction, to a 2 bedroom flat in London and a salary of less than 80k a year or whatever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,589 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It's neither fashionable nor profitable for former head honchos in RTE to make themselves available for interview.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Eibhir




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,973 ✭✭✭✭elperello




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  • Wowie, can yiz imagine Tubsidy doing cartwheels! He’s look like a giant spider blowing in the wind if he pulled it off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Eibhir




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Can't emphasizes enough how mad it is for us to a have a swimming World Record.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Paddy needs to shave or grow a proper beard... what is going on with the fuzz!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,188 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    There's some drugs allowed event coming up soon where athletes can use all sorts of banned enhancements, will be interesting how they compare to the clean athletes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭Eibhir


    Siun Ní Gerailt, another man that isn't well known 🤭



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭maebee


    Ray D'Arcy on the buttons there for Paddy's gymnastics 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭notwhoyouthink


    He is showboating. Joe would have been well able to do it before his accident./



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    More bleedin' Nordies this week ha!



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