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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Tbh it could mostly be backlog from the Avdiivka fight. There was a HUGE amount happening over a number of weeks there and not much footage of lost equipment. Now the fight isn't AS intense the footage is coming out.

    That'd be my guess anyway.






  • That was the argument made at the start of the war, that it will run out of ammunitions and that its economy will collapse. Both have gotten better since, they are out producing Ukraine and the EU on ammunitions and their economy is supported by India and China. Look it's slowly winning the war in Ukraine, any attempt EU will make will get bogged down in politics. How are the EU farmers supporting Ukraine? They are not and agriculture is Ukraine's main source of income so it's fecked both economically and militarily, because the US want out too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Homelander


    The fact they have to go scrounging to Iran and North Korea for help says about everything. I mean the global humiliation to be seen begging from one of the world's poorest countries with regards North Korea. Begging for shells they probably sold most of them in the 1950's. Begging for low-quality ammunition from a pariah state that doesn't even have a proper road network.

    Economy wise, yeah it's weathered sanctions better than expected, but it's now in a war economy. Anyone with a functioning braincell knows that is not remotely sustainable in the medium to long term and unless I'm missing something Russia shows absolutely zero chance of "winning" in the short term.

    So what's the end-game? There is none. Except Putin throwing everything he can at the conflict until he can't.

    "Slowly winning" at a snails pace in a foreign country has never worked, even with countries 10 times richer than Russia. So trying to paint this as anything other than a collossal embarrassment and failure for Russia is disingenuous.

    Ukraine has less constraints in many ways because it's a war of basic survival. For Russia, it's a botched and humiliating failure of an invasion, that it had no business launching in the first place, it has incomparably less mileage with which to wage this war.

    If the Russian army performed as it should have - as everyone expected it would - in February 2022 the war should've been over in a few weeks. But that didn't happen because the Russian army, like the state itself, is absolutely gutted by corruption.

    We're in 2024 and Russia's only successful strategy is 1916-era tactics of mass bombardment and infantry assaults. No combined arms. No overwhelming air power. No evidence of even a semblence of high-level command and control. Relative to the modern day they're not even remotely on even the vaguest level of what the Soviet Union was capable of in 1944-45.

    No evidence of any modern equipment in even the vaguest meaningful numbers that wasn't built in the Soviet era either. The Russian state is simply rotten to the central core with corruption.

    China was shocked - and probably delighted - by how bad the Russian army has proven to be. China is a friend of Russia when it suits China to be a friend of Russia.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I like the idea of western troops entering western Ukraine. Free up Ukrainian soldiers especially at the Belarus border. Bring their air defence with them to allow Ukraine to move theirs further east and help with logistics in the country. Would be a big help and another imaginary red line crossed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Also, if EU could stop buying LNG from Russia, that would have a big impact. 8 billion last year, 15.75 billion in 2022 (however amounts imported are the same, so I assume that means the price has halved).

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    Source: https://ieefa.org/european-lng-tracker#:~:text=M-,LNG%20import%20and%20export%20volumes,the%20rest%20from%20other%20countries.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Same here. I think they seem to be hitting targets pulling back from adviika and in the vicinity of adviika. Russia looks to be pushing out from there and have taken a few villages close there so seems to be Ukrainian positions getting hit there and when they are withdrawing from them as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    ...on wrong page and reading an old post there and responded to it! Sorry.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It'd be the only way EU troops could enter Ukraine without actively shooting at Russia, you'd have to think; cos I'd say Macron's comments were very precisely phrased and if they were deployed simply as rearguard troops (and potential educators to Ukraine's own), a NATO/EU force would fulfill a more aggressive posture just by being there. Might also call Russia's own bluff cos would they send drones and airstrikes on locations they know Western troops are stationed?

    Figuring out the mandate alone would take months however - and you could be damn sure Orbán is primed and ready to shoot down any and all suggestions or particulars of an expeditionary force. And if they were crippled by excessive legalise they could be functionally useless, even if they they were shot at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    With EU collective defence being so nascent, it would (IMO) be more likely to be some kind of cooperative mission under aegis of NATO between countries that are willing.

    We know Hungary won't help at all, but if something like that ever began to look likely (due to prospect of Russia making much greater progress than as yet in East of Ukraine perhaps) it is doubtful they can do anything to stop it. They can't tell other EU countries what to do with their militaries.

    I mean at the EU level I am guessing (?), Ireland might be almost as likely to try and block something like a specific EU led mission sending soldiers into West of Ukraine as Hungary is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    For sure, never said it wasn't. But down from what it was and there are some divisions on the Ukrainian side that were not there in the beginning. It's almost inevitable and it's amazing how upset some people get by the mere suggestion



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    Macron has rightly come in for some criticism during this war, but unusually strong words from him now, so let's hope it's followed through with actions:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    After this rather sudden Ukraine conference with 20 ( I think ) of EU countries + UK .. and then Macrons presser last evening with complete change of direction re this war ... I am concluding that they must have received sone sort of very serious sobering intelligence about russia/putins next move. He specifically mentions 10 countries ( i think ) open to being attacked, also singled out defence of moldova.

    I think we havent heard the full info yet. Concerning, frightening times but I suppose inevitable really



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Sure even Scholz has come out with strong words while being almost unremittingly useless in action. Believe it when I see it etc.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The Dutch don't have a new government yet.

    Wonder what these are

    A good start. But there have been too many false starts based on rhetoric that just wasn't matched by action.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,750 ✭✭✭✭josip


    What's the reason for the increased aircraft losses in recent weeks? Are the Russians being more aggressive and flying closer to the front line or has the loss of AWACs eg. A-50s, meant that it's more risky to fly?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Are these losses confirmed by Ukraine? These days with the information war and capacity to generate AI imagery, I'm a bit slow to believe anything I see, from either side - till it's acknowledged by the other. And even then, you'd wonder.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Wouldn't that depend on the source of said obituaries?

    But yes, supporting evidence if valid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Roald Dahl



    For some time I have been hoping for Crimea to be taken back and the Kerch Bridge to be sent to its final resting place as a diving attraction on the floor of the Black Sea.

    The 2025 Biden administration and its allies then hold a very large conference in the city of Yalta where the future of a dismantled and administered Russia is agreed upon; extensive lists of global arrest warrants for war crimes and crimes against humanity issued, destruction of all military installations, confiscation of all nuclear raw materials, closure of all Russian "embassies". That would be a nice start.

    It continues with Medvedev and Lavrov and dear Vladimir Vladimirovich himself bellowing and snorting with impotent fury while threatening the world with their hollow, rusty tubes.

    Back to reality, it is very much time for the free world to get its act together and crush the Vatnik for once and for all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    I saw a tweet 2 weeks ago that Russians managed to get the air superiority in some parts of eastern Ukraine. And then boom, su34s and su35s started dropping like flies. But out of 9-10 planes there's only like 3 video evidences or confirmations fighterbomber, which is/was reliable Russian source. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a little bit of propaganda from UA side



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Spent the weekend in Budapest and despite all the government propaganda posters claiming 99% of Hungarians oppose the EU (on the grounds of Migration, "Gender Propoganda" etc.) there's definitely a feeling in the air that their own Maidan moment might not be that far off. There was a fairly large scale protest against Orban's regime on Saturday and the locals I spoke to utterly despise him and the scale of corruption there would give Bertie Ahern an erection.

    What I hadn't realised was that Hungarian citizens who don't live in Hungary were given an electoral mandate by Orban's party since the 2014 elections and that more than 90% of this voting block, who are predominantly made up of the country's diaspora in neighbouring countries like Romania, Slovakia etc, vote for Orban's Fidesz–KDNP party.

    Now, all that said, I know Budapest (and the better educated urban areas in general) wouldn't be the areas where the Fidesz party gather their support from but with his power base is so heavily reliant on people that don't even live within the country's borders, it would seem to me that Orban's grip on power in Hungary is nowhere near as strong as the election results would suggest.

    Incidentally, we happened to be staying quite near the Russian embassy and this memorial for Navalny at the entrance to the Metro station directly in front of the embassy was growing by the day as we were there. Every time we passed by someone seemed to be adding some flowers or lighting candles.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    I'm just surprised by Macron, his words have come depressingly close to appeasement at times, this is unusually tough talk from him. I wonder what prompted it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Jesus, can you imagine if the GOP Irish diaspora in the States had votes here...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,543 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    We'd have been ruled by Sinn Fein since the mid eighties if not before!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    oh to be a fly on the wall in the russian operations room



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Seems like an outdated concept to have such a high price asset if its that vulnerable , better to develop a sophisticated drone for 1/10th the price

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