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Leinster Team Talk Thread (Love you Furlong time)

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I'd forgotten Connacht made it to a second URC knockout game last year. I don't know if he'd have started over Prendergast. He wouldn't have started over Coombes or POM at Munster so making the bench there is hardly a step up from starting for Leinster.

    The CC group stages are only 4 games. Neither Connacht nor Ulster are going any further, Deegan or no Deegan. He'd be playing Challenge Cup games at best.

    Fair enough, Ulster and Munster played the big French teams last year, but Deegan doesn't get ahead of Duane Vermeulen (or Coombes/POM) any more than he does Doris or Conan for those matches.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,856 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Max Deegan is very focused on life after rugby, and sees rugby for what it is, a temporary profession until a certain time where he has to look at gaining work outside of the game. He is business orientated so i cant see him leaving Dublin for another irish province, unless the financial reward was extraordinary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭hold my beer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Belvo lost to Zaga. Nooooo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Gonzaga beat Belvedere who beat Clongowes. Ad Majorem Harpastum Gloriam.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    All being fit, who are you dropping for Deegan to make the bench out of POM, Hodnett, Coombes, and Ahern? You better cover your head from some depending on the answer...

    Then you have JOD and highly hyped young players in Gleeson, Kendellen, Quinn, and Edogbo who he'd be taking game time away from. If they all make progress it wont be long until there is a good argument to be shifting some of the Munster backrows elsewhere, even without Deegan moving there, and I'm sure some will be very quickly changing their tune about fair 'resource allocation'.

    Deegan going to the other two provinces makes more sense from a purely game time decision but he will Connacht even be in the CC next year and Ulster is a complete shambles right now and he isn't guaranteed to start for either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Deegan is a better player than Coombes and Hodnett imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭johnh6767


    Anyone know what the team is for Saracens friendly and if it’s streamed? Friday night I gather



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭50HX


    Do any if ye know where/who to contact to get a jersey signed by a former or current player

    Edit to say its not for me or a collectable but for a young lad who has had a sh1t few years & has kept himself straight which was a great achievement as a minor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭DelMcG


    A particular player or just any Leinster player(s)?

    My thoughts would be to either contact the Leinster press office with your request/backstory or if it's a particular player, maybe contact their agent/agency. NavyBlue Sports have a lot of players on their books. You could also try LineUp Sports or Frontier Sports Management.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭50HX


    Thanks for that @DelMcG, if I could get Johnny Sexton twould make his year



  • Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think his best position is probably 6 but it would be tough to beat out ahern there as ahern's upside is so high. He might be better right now but ahern seems to be already ahead of prendergast there for ireland so maybe not.

    He is a completely different player to hodnett. Hodnett is definitely better at his role in their offense than deegan is. I generally can't remember Deegan playing seven either.

    He doesn't seem to be definitively ahead of coombes in the ireland reckoning even though he is a much closer role fit to doris than coombes. So, i don't know if he is better there.

    However, he would play loads. Ahern and coombes seem to play lock a decent bit, and with normal rotation he'd play alot of 6 and 8 .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    Leinster Rugby (caps in brackets)

    15. Henry McErlean (1)

    14. Aitzol King (1)

    13. Liam Turner (24)

    12. Ben Brownlee (5)

    11. Andrew Osborne (0)

    10. Sam Prendergast (11)

    9. Ben Murphy (10)

    1. Michael Milne (32)

    2. John McKee (22)

    3. Rory McGuire (3)

    4. Brian Deeny (16)

    5. Conor O’Tighearnaigh (1)

    6. Rhys Ruddock (225) (CAPTAIN)

    7. Will Connors (44)

    8. Diarmuid Mangan (0)


    Subs From:

    Gus McCarthy (0)

    Paddy McCarthy (4)

    Thomas Clarkson (34)

    Temi Lasisi (2)

    Jason Jenkins (30)

    Scott Penny (65)

    Max Deegan (106)

    Fintan Gunne (1)

    Luke McGrath (202)

    Luke Kritzinger (0)

    Jamie Osborne (37)

    Ruben Moloney (0)



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    No Culhane?

    Never heard of Kritzinger before.

    Milne's first outing of the season?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    Culhane is injured along with Tector, Cooney, Molony, Cosgrave.

    Kriztinger is a centre who didnt make irish u20 squad.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    How many Moloneys do we have at the moment? Ross, Martin and is there another guy who was u20 last year? Liam? Conor?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    yep Liam.

    There are Molonys - Ross/Liam

    and Moloneys - Martin & Ruben.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Is this the last chance to lay down a marker for Lasisi?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭durthacht


    It is a rare chance to impress for a lot of those guys. These opportunities are rare so I imagine lots of them will be very nervous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Hey_Ho_Lets_Go_3


    ruben moloneys try at the weekend, from 3:41: https://youtu.be/P8_AnJ3gZf8?si=tgQB5kjWUABAOLHA



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  • Posts: 281 ✭✭ Nancy Narrow Shootout


    Is there any word of a YouTube stream or anything for the match tomorrow?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭CORMACREYN


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭jonok28


    Murray Kinsella saying as of right now, Ulster haven't any plans to replace Billy Burns "As things stand, Ulster aren’t set to bring in a replacement for Burns and it seems that 22-year-old scrum-half Nathan Doak could play at out-half more often next season, competing with 24-year-old Jake Flannery for the number 10 shirt." They are also set to lose Will Addison and potentially Dave Ewers as well as Eric O'Sullivan and James French heading out the door.

    No wonder Leinster thought they could grab Tom O'Toole. Didn't realise Ulster were in such a bad way. Hopefully they can turn it around sooner rather than later, I always enjoyed the competitive fixtures with our friends up north.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    I think the threat of playing Doak at 10 next season is Ulster playing some barely transparent messages to the IRFU

    "Send us a 10 or we're moving one of the more promising young 9s in the country out of position"

    Doak was one of the most complete underage 9s we saw in the last number of years and while he hasn't kicked on despite being the preferred senior 9 over the last 2 seasons I still think he has the tools to be an international player.

    Richie Murphy coming in might be the best thing that happens in his career.

    I wonder where O'Sullivan will end up. He's a very solid prop. But the other 3 provinces have looseheads of his calibre in their ranks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I really wouldn't be convinced by EOS. He has gone backwards massively after being a very promising prospect a few years ago. He really doesn't stand out for anything good on the few occasions he does play. He seemed to be a big favourite of McFarland's when he first came through, enjoying a huge amount of game time. But that has dropped massively in the last couple of seasons and he seems very ineffectual when he plays now whether in his carrying, set piece or clear outs.

    At 29 this season, I wouldn't be surprised if he has to go somewhere fairly low level if he wants another contract.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Agree he's not going anywhere to be first choice.

    I'd consider him on par with Dooley, Wycherly etc. and wouldn't have him ahead of Ed Byrne at any point.

    29 is a good age profile for a prop with a good injury record and he's relatively experienced. Connacht could be a shout for him



  • Posts: 186 ✭✭ Dexter Kind Boar


    Deleted. Wrong thread.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If that's the case, Leinster should be worried. The central contract narrative is already being used in relation to Snyman, if Ulster's finances are a mess it ups the pressure on the IRFU to support Leinster less.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,794 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don't think Leinster are in any dire need of IRFU support.



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  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Central contracts are essentially IRFU support



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