Israel/Palestine Thread

No. Ireland (and many others) have consistently condemned the attacks on Israel and have supported their right to self defense.

The issue is that what is being perpetrated in Gaza goes far beyond self defence and is directly impacting the civilian population - i.e. genocide.

Am I reading you right that you are calling Ireland a "horrible pontificating irrelevent country"?

I hope that the International community will step in (in a respectful manner) to "assist" negotiations that leads to an agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians.

And I agree fully that that will be very difficult - both sides will have to compromise. But if the result is what both want - peace, security and prosperity, it would be worth it.

I don't know but I can imagine those in Gaza do not want to go through this again. I hope that they see Hamas is utterly corrupt and cannot represent them.

Im no expert on the wider Middle East but work will need to be done to bring all those countries into line also. Egypt and Jordan have peace with Israel. Saudi was on the brink. Lebanon is like Gaza - they know peace with Israel is the only solution but they have to shake off Hezbollah.

Iran I know nothing about other than what is posted here. I think there are at least some there that recognise peace is the only solution but they have a rotten regime to shake off.

I really don't have the knowledge others here have do the above is subject to (respectful) critisism.

Fair enough on the way you feel about Ireland.

Hamas simply has to go. That is the solution for Israel.

Simply bombing Gaza into the Stone Age and killing every living thing will solve nothing. Israel will be a pariah like Russia - sanctions, economy tanking, citizens paying the price, accused of genocide.

And after all that, they will still be surrounded by people who want to wipe them off the map.

I think @Hey boy created a very good "list" many posts ago.

Nonsense. His track record speaks for itself, advocating for Darfur, for Russians, Cubans, Chinese, clearly an expert. It's just that he advocates for Israel so he's 'a self anointed expert.' Attack the source because you can't refute what he's said.

I see. You want him to agree with your dictates, but he doesn't so off to the bin with him. Glad you cleared that up.

Approaching the 100K mark, asking the ICJ to dismiss an SA request, withholding humanitarian aid and more pressure from hostage families (leading to nothing)

• The Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry says four patients died Friday morning due to a power outage that cut the oxygen supply in Khan Yunis' Nasser Hospital, where the IDF continues to operate.
• The IDF initially said it entered the hospital complex following intelligence regarding the possibility of Israeli hostages being held there, and later said it found medicine there labeled with the names of Israeli hostages. The IDF said it arrested dozens of suspects, including over 20 terrorists who took part in the October 7 massacre.
• The World Health Organization said it was trying to get access to Nasser Hospital, warning that "There are still critically injured and sick patients inside."
• The Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry said at least 28,775 Palestinians have been killed and 68,552 wounded since the war began.
• RAFAH OFFENSIVE: White House spokesperson John Kirby said on Thursday that the U.S. believes that under the current circumstances, without a credible plan to account for Palestinian civilians that are sheltering in Rafah, "a major operation would be a disaster."
• PM Netanyahu held a 40-minute phone call with U.S. President Joe Biden, during which Biden "raised the situation in Rafah, and reiterated his view that a military operation should not proceed without a credible and executable plan for ensuring the safety of and support for the civilians" there, the White House said.
• War cabinet minister Benny Gantz said the fighting in Gaza will continue until the hostages are returned: "Even in the approaching month of Ramadan, the firing can continue. Either our hostages will be returned, or we will expand the fighting to Rafah."
• Egypt is setting up a huge walled enclosure in the Sinai Desert bordering Gaza as part of a contingency plan if there is a mass migration of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.
• Displaced Gazans broke through to the Palestinian side of Rafah crossing, burning tires outside the entrance. Gaza border authority sources said they are displaced people who were sheltering near the crossing, and that they stormed aid trucks entering Rafah. Hamas police officers arrived at the scene to repel the crowds.
• Israel has asked the International Court of Justice in The Hague to dismiss a request by South Africa to issue additional emergency measures over Israel's plan to extend its offensive in Gaza into the city of Rafah.

• PM Netanyahu met CIA director William Burns in Israel, and told him that Israel will not agree to more humanitarian gestures for Gaza "until we receive concrete proof that the hostages received the medicine that was sent to them," a diplomatic source said.
• Families of the American hostages welcomed the CIA director's visit, calling it "imperative" for the U.S. "to pressure Israeli leadership … to urgently create favorable conditions for a deal that returns the hostages safely and swiftly."
• The families of the hostages still held in Gaza protested alongside their supporters in front of Israel's army HQ on Thursday, calling for a deal to secure their release.
• Former hostage Moran Stela Yanai and Ruby Chen, the father of hostage Itay Chen, called on Israel's government to reach a deal in Cairo for the release of hostages after PM Netanyahu ordered Israel's delegation not to return for continuing talks.