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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,421 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    I think today's revelations were worse than what was revealed at the previous Oireachtas meetings given the fact the board and Bakhurst knew they would be heavily scrutinized for everything in the future, they still didn't care about the impact of their actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭The wonderfish


    Formally compelling Forbes, O’Keefe, Coveney, O’Leary, Jennings & Doherty is likely inevitable now but sadly no guarantee it will work. This is Ireland afterall and bizzarely some people can play the system even when it’s such a high profile parliamentary committee calling them out. I think this needs to go down the fraud route and engage specialist corruption investigation agencies. If not this lot will just continue to give two fingers to the state.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Go again when you add in that RTE is now on the hook for the employment taxes on €450k



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Cataleya Howling Canoeist


    Bonkers when you put it like that.

    I'll continue to ignore paying it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Does anyone know what the non-renewal rate is for the license currently?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭kazamo


    What a waste of effort, he must be annoyed the other committee got so much juicy stuff today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    This 'redundancy' payment doesn't meet the criteria for Revenue's termination payments as it does not appear to be a genuine redundancy and RTE have already said that they "will bear the cost of tax liabilities arising from voluntary exit payments".

    If Revenue treat this as a normal/ex-gratia payment (they likely will) the tax bill could be larger than the actually payment of €450k to O'Keefe. This is because the payment will be treated as the net figure and the amount will have to be recalculated to calculate the gross payment.

    As this happened in March 2020, there will also be penalties and interest due too, which will put the total cost of this 'redundancy' well in excess of €1m.

    Tubridy's under the counter payments pale in comparison to this and at least he paid the tax on his payments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Even if they do appear all you're going to get is the full John Delaney - "On the advice of my lawyers, I am unable to answer that question".



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Serena Enough Pension


    Kevin Bakhurst has an abundance of social media monikers now 😁

    Blackhearse Backhurts Blackhorse….

    Maybe Dee’s back hurts and is thus medically certified as unfit to stand trial attend PAC or anything at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,062 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Revenue could intervene in such cases at an early stage so that it wouldn't get that far.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


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    That's some bunch of sick notes.

    Wonder if their HR Director could comment as to whether it is out of trend for RTE?

    Anyhow, enough moaning, got to get up and try do a fair day's work...for a fair da...........



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Should Simon not be at Rory’s beside careering for him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    Those absences are incredibly damning.

    They’ve been badly advised. They would have been better off facing up and trying to convince people they were just poor at their jobs.

    The only conclusion, in their absence, is that they are afraid to face the music are couldn’t find ANY argument to put forward as a defence.

    They need to feel the sentiment of society every time they step foot outside their comfy little environments.

    Scumbags.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,463 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    What was Michael Jackson doing on the RTE team……….I’m sure I saw him there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It's weird alright that Tubridys secret payments have revealed all these other dodgy dealings. I am sure if Grant Thornton did a deep dive they would find a whole lot more. Their remit was to investigate issues that were blurted out at a toothless committee but I think we all know we are at the tip of the iceberg still.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,463 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Of course we do and we have known it for ages…. and it’s more than the management too.

    Rte have hidden behind ‘confidentially’ clauses and other ploys for a long time.

    And they would be still at it if the ‘Tubridy issue’ hadn’t burst the banks of omertà.

    A lot more digging needs doing….don’t forget yer shovel lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,060 ✭✭✭gifted


    These people are from the shirt and tie ilk.....they also probably mingle with some very important people so dont be surprised when it comes out that they can't be touched by revenue or anyone else for that matter.

    Meanwhile, the ordinary joe soap is up in court non payment of tv license..

    Its a great wee country

    All pension payments to former executives of RTE should be stopped until this scadal is over...all redundancy payments and access to monies already given out should be frozen until its all cleared by revenue....but they won't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I wonder why Backhurst revealed the O'Keefe package. He seemed to suggest it was confidential and that there were legals etc etc. But Dillon pushed it and he spat it out. He didn't want to really

    Interesting to see if O'Keefe goes down the legal route now. I doubt it.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    They get privilege in the committee I believe.

    She would have some neck going down a legal line to seek even more money off the tax payer. But who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,277 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Don't want to be questioned about their "exit package".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭arctictree


    I still dont get why you would pay someone 450K to leave. Surely there are less expensive options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    That’s why they won’t answer any questions.

    That’s why people should vote out the current government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,570 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Meanwhile, Bakhurst also told the committee that he pulled ads for the TV licence from other broadcasting platforms as he thought it would be “inappropriate” to demand people to pay the fee in the middle of the RTE scandal.

    Bakhurst said management were trying to do “everything we could” to re-establish trust with the Irish public.

    Brendan Griffin, a Fine Gael TD, queried why RTÉ decided to pull advertising of the TV licence on channels outside its own platforms last July.

    “Ultimately I made the decision for a number of reasons,” Bakhurst said.

    “The main reason was because I thought that given what was emerging about RTÉ at that stage, and the constant scandal that was unfolding, I thought it would be inappropriate for us to be paying for adverts demanding people to pay the licence fee.”

    This is just getting weirder.



  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Dail TV channel have yet to publish the recording of the committee meeting, while meetings later in the day are available.

    EDIT

    Found a link: https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/oireachtas-tv/video-archive/committees/8997

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    I have to disagree, I don't it's Gross incompetence, this is what happens when there is no accountability or repercussions for those at the top. Just look at how all those people listed in another post of this thread were able to walk away and not attend the committee. This is not just RTE, even though this RTE debacle is highlighting but this is rife across the public sector. Look at how untouchable the elite are and by that I mean Government ministers/TD's, their advisors and Sec Gens are and also how dismissively they all treat these committees. They all want the big wages but none of the responsibility. I hope everyone of them involved in this debacle is shunned by everyone in the country so much so that they don't want to step outside their doors or they have to move out of the country.

    One of the many opportunities missed when the Trioka were here was a reform of our corporate laws to make Public servants more accountable and with dire consequences such as being arrested and tried for any wrong doing and not being let off like we see here with a sick note. This is what Helen McEntee should be working on and not the "hurty words" bill but none of the elite want this, yes politicians will pretend like they do that that they want transparency and accountability at all levels but we all know that this the furthest thing from their mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,277 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    It's an agreed redundancy apparently. Presumably there was some tax liability though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    There should be a deep dive done on every single Public service company/department now and allow no resignations or retirements till it is complete and use auditors from outside of the state to do it. If anyone thinks that this was/is just going on in RTE then they need to take their heads out of the sand. If it was me I would be starting with the HSE and what is going on there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭arctictree


    But a redundancy is when the role is redundant. She was a CFO and presumably they just then hired another CFO. I see why they would tie themselves in knots trying to explain this one. You'd need to be paid circa 1M to get an after tax payment of 450K.



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Serena Enough Pension


    DCC and I’m sure other local authorities are rife with corruption in certain areas. This country is full of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,277 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Dunno. Bakhurst stated she was given the money to leave. They were looking for voluntary redundancies,maybe an underling got the job.



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