General Irish politics discussion thread

But the documents requested did not have to be laid before the Houses, that's the part you seem to be missing.

Are you suggesting that Varadkar's documents were drafts? Because as I understand it is the documents he supplied to the Oireachtas that were requested.

There is no need to read the FOI act, it has nothing to do with the FOI Act as the request was not made under the FOI Act.

Ah here now,nothings ever been uncovered about Sinn Féin ever,they're saints 😁

What I find amusing about the ditch is the 1st 3 pages that I looked at are all anti government negative puff pieces including the Sipo stuff

On the latter,if you had a look at the declarations of All t.d's and senators in the Dáil,how many would you find genuine mistakes or corrections in ?

I guess we'll never know because MSM are too busy ignoring the tiny inconsequential things whilst anti government publications are busy banging on about the tiny inconsequential things to the converted in the hope the un converted will listen

It was ever thus

A publication supported by or set up by anti government elements and Sinn Féin supporters,are not an impartial judge of anything in my opinion

That being said they're entitled to do this in a free country

The problem for them is,it's preaching to the converted,to people who want to hear this kind of stuff all the time hyped up into what the unconverted think it's mostly not

That's evidenced in the fact that 4 years on I'd expect the government to be returned based on current polling

At least we are lucky to live in a free open democracy where voters deliver verdicts on various viewpoints

There are countries like Russia,Cuba and Venezuela where that doesn't happen and despite all the nay saying we're considerably better off and clearly much more transparent than those and more

There's plenty discussion here to show the angle of the dangle is to make out a whiff of wrong doing with no evidence of such and no crime committed

I'll leave Mr/Mrs Blanch to treat ye on the ridiculousness of trying to claim a report from Sipo under FoI before its report goes to the oireachtas

Even Gavin Reilly's not interested because he can see a flopping attempt at Varadkar bashing from the usual suspects when he see's one

We already know how his detractors feel about him so trying and failing to make a hoo ha over nothing just looks silly

You won't get any more attention from me on this one,I prefer genuine debate

Would Verona Murphy be a good fit with that party? She also seems to be on the opposite end of some of the cracky pot ideas of the greens and EU bureaucrats most of the time

A judicial review is a challenge on a decision that is made. The job of the court is to determine whether that decision was legally sound. What happens after the fact is irrelevant. The court quashed the decision that SIPO can refuse access to files that haven't been laid before the court. SIPO agreed to having the decision quashed and were not willing to challenge it. If SIPO wanted to to keep doing that they would have defended the case, but they didn't.

Again, you don't seem to be understanding the concept of a judicial review. I'll try again, a judicial review is a challenge against a decision has been made. SIPO made a decision to refuse releasing documents for inspection. That decision was still made, SIPO being happy to release the documents after that decision was made doesn't magically mean that decision was never made. The Ditch challenged the decision and SIPO consent to the decision being quashed.