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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • #1502
    Frank Grimes
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755275#Comment_121755275

    What is the 'nerd herd' thing? I've seen it referenced here a couple of times, I assume it's some variation on "The Toyman" that he's trying to brand himself with over there? I could only manage to listen to the show for about 5 minutes on two of the first days and he wasn't going on about it then.



  • #1503
    Emerson Chilly Silverware
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755143#Comment_121755143

    I can’t recall, but 1) I rarely commented on InstaTubridy and 2) when I did post a comment once or twice I was quite guarded.



  • #1504
    Emerson Chilly Silverware
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755598#Comment_121755598

    Apparently it’s a recent shtick, the adult version of the Toyman, referring to his notion that he particularly appeals to nerdy people.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerd

    Intellectual? I don’t think so. Obsessive… well I’d say “repetitive” would better describe him. Introverted?… in a way in spite of his talkativeness. Socially awkward… very lacking in the social graces.



  • #1505
    KevRossi
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    From the great Bob Mortimer. He obviously never met God with or without his hoodie.


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  • #1506
    alzer100
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    Had books been THAT popular outside of their normal place on BBC R4 or off peak RTE Radio 1 then they would be of mass appeal. We live in a world where audiobooks, podcasts and e-books are a 'thing' and a lot more "reading" is being done online or via Kindles and other devices. Tubridy is showing how out of step he is with the modern world and maybe something that worked for him as a novelty or "feature" in amateur hour RTE may not float in the commercial world. He does sound desperate for attention and has no real grá for books or literature than the dogs in the street. What he is trying to tap into is a "niche" market of those who YES do like to pick up a paperback. It is by its nature niche and not mainstream in popularity especially not with white- van drivers and listeners to Virgin Radio and even less so to the MoS reader who quite likely in reality would not have the time for books. Nice try but if he had a column in The Sunday Times Culture section then I think we could all sign off and say "Well done Tubs", but look it is what it is.

    His Sunday show is not fitting the format of Q102, LMFM, Live 95FM nor Cork's 96FM. It is very likely that there will be a ratings slide over the next 3 JNLR's. The show does not allow for interaction or connection and they could actually delete his voicetracks next Sunday and it would not make very much difference other than maybe getting more listeners.



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  • #1507
    HildaOgdenx
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755230#Comment_121755230

    Have they no subeditors in the Mail on Sunday?

    Indeed, but just to add, if he was as well-read as he tries to pretend he is, he would be able to use 'eke out' correctly, and know that it was not applicable in this instance.

    His vocabulary, in general, seems very limited.

    As I said upthread, nothing wrong, imo, with use of simple English and short sentences. But that drivel is, well, drivel. 😁



  • #1508
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755803#Comment_121755803

    It is a lot more difficult to write in simple English and with short sentences. Tubridy doesn't seem to be able to do it. It is a skill that can be learned. The deeper problem is that Tubridy frequently has nothing to say and tries to fill the space with the same kind of name dropping and banter that he uses on his radio show.

    It is probably very difficult for a fifty year old like Tubridy to write an interesting weekly column without having any previous experience as a newspaper columnist. It is quite different to writing a book or two (as Tubridy did) because there are tighter deadlines and a discipline to the process. There is also a need to keep readers interested.

    Regards...jmcc



  • #1509
    HildaOgdenx
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    The deeper problem is that Tubridy frequently has nothing to say and tries to fill the space with the same kind of name dropping and banter that he uses on his radio show.

    In a word, yes.



  • #1510
    Hyperbollix
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    You couldn't call this dross a column. People mock the likes of Boris Johnson and Jeremy Clarkson for getting paid a hospital consultants salary for their weekly brain farts in various papers but it's a skill to write a topical, interesting, funny and unmissable newspaper column every week.

    It helps of course if you're a curious, interested and interesting person yourself but there's a structure to a good column, a theme maybe, a message you want to impart etc. It's not just a case of vomiting up a "Where I went on my holidays" school level essay.

    Since he's such an expert at secret payments, you'd think he'd hire someone with some writing ability to ghost his column for him.



  • #1511
    moonage
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121753301#Comment_121753301

    Maybe when Louisa sees Tubs coming in the door she screams, "Eek! Out!".



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  • #1512
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755763#Comment_121755763

    It can be dangerous to use stereotypes about readers. Most people don't have the time to laze about like Tubridy. They will often read books in the privacy of their own homes rather than posing in cafes trying to appear intellectual. There are so many genres that it is impossible for any show to cover them all. Even the book review sections of newspapers like the Sunday Times or Irish Times are highly formatted and almost a closed shop to people like Tubridy. This is because reviews are part of marketing a book and who reviews it can result in more sales. Some newspapers have their own reviewers or get established writers to review books. A good review from a well known writer can sell more copies. Tubridy seems to be aiming at a kind radio based book club of thing for his "nerd herd" stuff. The problem for Tubridy is that he has no brand recognition in the UK and the format of his show works against it. Amazon's review system really cut the legs from under Tubridy's strictly analogue approach. It is more effective and based on purchases and reviews. Perhaps he's hoping for a book review programme on LyricFM once he finishes his London exile?

    Regards...jmcc

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  • #1513
    leath_dub
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    Pat Kenny standing up for his old colleagues, neither of which are in the same league as broadcasters that he is


    https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/12184325/pat-kenny-ryan-tubridy-rte-payment-scandal-exit/




  • #1514
    yagan
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    I remember when Pat Kenny was fighting to keep secret how much the state broadcaster was paying him.

    These types really kick against accountability.



  • #1515
    NIMAN
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    Someone should tell him Richard & Judy conquered the whole Book Club thing in the UK about 10 or 15 years ago.

    He's not doing something new and exciting. Let it go.



  • #1516
    GSF
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756439#Comment_121756439

    Bauer tried a book club on Magic for a while. Think it kind of fizzled out lately. Radio 2 did it with Evans didn’t they? Zoe Ball contributed with it on breakfast but it looks like it’s a way to have a bit of public service broadcasting in a station to get brownie points with the regulator most of the time



  • #1517
    jmcc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756546#Comment_121756546

    If it works, other stations pick it up quickly. But it really depends on the presenters and whether the listeners trust their choices. Tubridy is an unknown in the UK market but might be useful for Irish publishers and promotions. The problem is that he's on a UK channel (Ofcom rules) that's syndicated on Irish broadcasters (CnM). If Turbridy had any awareness, he'd be watching what people read on trains rather than relying upon his own reading range.

    Regards...jmcc



  • #1518
    GSF
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756581#Comment_121756581

    Or at Heathrow as he waits for his flight back home each Friday afternoon



  • #1519
    NIMAN
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    Talking of book shows, and in case anyone might be interested, I really enjoy Between The Covers on the bbc iplayer. All episodes available.



  • #1520
    podgeandrodge
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    Presumably Tubs will get a Corrs interview in due course, now that they are going to tour. It can't be a coincidence that he interviewed Andrea Corr recently.

    I suspect we will never hear the end of it when it happens.



  • #1521
    HildaOgdenx
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756615#Comment_121756615

    Saw some of that programme last year, it's very enjoyable.

    Switched on the radio a few minutes ago and he was asking someone about - I think - their kids. Along the lines of 'Are they bright and intelligent or are they demanding and [other negative words]'. 🙄 Can't remember exactly but am just picturing the caller at the other end of the phone thinking WTF 🤷‍♀️

    I switched away as always, until 1 p.m.



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  • #1522
    AndyBoBandy
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    just tuned in there for the craic, and literally the first link I hear is him hyping up a book set in Dublin that he recommended yesterday in a newspaper column....

    and he was shocked at the end of it, his daughter came in and said he looked like he'd seen a ghost.... Riveting stuff altogether....... and now it seems he was just cut short his ramblings so we could listen to UB40


    Books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books books

    Oh, do you know he likes books?


    He's really got nothing going for him whatsoever has he...


    The only reason he chose books to lead his new 'persona' is because it's a subject probably 99.99% of his listeners will not be well versed in, or just even interested in, so it makes him feel superior to them....



  • #1523
    Neferteena
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    When I read the title of the Evoke article, I was shocked. It's like he's begging for his P45. He lives & works in London, & castigates all bookshop staff, for not being charming enough. That condescending stereotyping will have a short life.

    Virgin are running a valentines comp with 7 prizes. He's struggled to read out cohesiveit what this 7 prizes are, stuttering, long audible intake of breath at the wrong times.

    He'll need at least 7 callers to leave a voice msg, with some story. I missed bits, but probably a Valentine related story, judging by the prizes. Noel will be busy this morning getting those voice messages in.



  • #1524
    AndyBoBandy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121757113#Comment_121757113

    He'll need at least 7 callers to leave a voice msg

    The winners will all be from Ireland as they'll probably struggle for 7 voicemails from U.K. based listeners...



  • #1525
    LambshankRedemption
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121754848#Comment_121754848

    I think his number one problem is he lacks imagination. This is clear in everything, from his questioning style (the 3 stock questions), his palate (Mark Wogan said he had a the palate of a 7 year old). He proclaims to be very well read but there he is reading a bestseller. Its not exactly Dostoyevski. Likewise, anyone with any sense of imagination, finding themselves in London would have their days jam packed with things to do, not just browsing book shops. I don't go out much but can think of about 10 things I'd like to do on a trip to London.

    His comment about missing chips with curry sauce, makes me wonder is his diet so basic and specific that he doesn't just miss chips and curry sauce (which Im pretty sure you can find in London), but it's that one specific takeaway he misses. My sister lived with a guy who would only eat potato croquets. His weekly shop was 5 bags of frozen potato croquets. Did Ryan just dine at Cisi's takeaway, and just eat chips and curry sauce? Might explain his physique.

    Dare I say it, someone with some imagination would have managed to survive the RTE controversy. Obviously tweeting about the contract negotiations before they were finalised showed a level of naiveté, but a cute whoor he is not.



  • #1526
    HildaOgdenx
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    From the very brief clips I happened to hear on Q102, his questioning style is bad.

    If you're interviewing someone, or posing a question to a group, or whatever, you should ask one clear question at a time.

    He rattles off two or three questions all at once, to callers who must be then wondering which one to answer. That's a very basic interview technique, one he should have learned long ago. 🤷‍♀️



  • #1527
    Emerson Chilly Silverware
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    This would be the depth of the books on Ryan’s myriad bookshelves



  • #1528
    Hyperbollix
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121757346#Comment_121757346

    Promoted way beyond his ability. He's not a journalist which is the main problem, but even that aside, he's not a good light entertainment broadcaster either as we see on Virgin, because his depth of interest or knowledge in pop culture is almost as non existent as his knowledge of current affairs.

    I can't remember a Late Late Show interview of his that was compelling to watch. Patrick Kielty showed on Day 1 how it's done and immediately you felt like this is now in the hands of a professional. With Tubs it was always like someone had handed the reins to a TY student hoping to do media studies in college.

    Tubs picked up where Pat Kenny left off and in the early years had a number of "high brow" interviews, by that I mean, non fluff non misery items with various politicians, authors, commentators etc and most of them were a car crash. Brian Cowen ran rings around him. Gerry Adams reminded him about his grandad after Tubs had had a clichéd go at the IRA. Richard Dawkins came on to talk about his book and got a lecture in good Catholicism that Archbishop McQuaid would have been proud of. It was all watch-through-your-fingers, cringe TV. The production team obviously knew this format had no future so a long running and respected forum for national debate was turned into a cabaret act to suit Tubridy's barely mentionable ability...... paddywhackery, assorted parish hall style specials and of course the promotion of his agent's other clients became the real MO of Tub's Late Late.

    The comments under the Times Radio YT video are a hoot and the view count is steadily rising. Interesting too is the fact when you look at the last 2 dozen uploads from the Virgin radio YT channel, none feature a clip from Mr Mid Morning. It's all Norton, Evans and others. I think he would want to be getting his podcast ducks in a row like many other DJ's are doing because the arse might fall out of this gig sooner rather than later.



  • #1529
    Chocolatier
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756099#Comment_121756099

    For sure, writing an engaging weekly column is a skill. Thinking up interesting topics, immersion in all sorts of topics... not for the dilettante. I predict Tubridy's column, such as it is, will peter out.



  • #1530
    HildaOgdenx
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121757599#Comment_121757599

    Promoted way beyond his ability.

    That goes without saying but should never be forgotten either. And that he was paid a lotto win of a salary to do a very much less than mediocre job.

    I did attempt to watch the LLS from time to time, in his early days on it. Or foolishly, on my part, when there was someone on as a guest that I liked, and wanted to watch. I gave up very very quickly.

    He had Dolores Keane on, one time, who told him in happy tones that she had just received the all-clear after cancer. Anyone's natural response to that would be, along the lines of - oh that's fantastic. I'm delighted to hear that. Tubridy just read the next cue card. 🙄

    On the 50th anniversary LLS Gaybo and PK wiped the floor with him, and they weren't in any way trying to do so.

    He would never make a good interviewer, imo, despite all the years he occupied the role, because he lacks natural curiosity of any sort, in other people. Or in anything or any place outside a very narrow area of Dublin with occasional jaunts to Connemara.



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  • #1531
    Tork
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121757737#Comment_121757737

    There's a reason why Tommy Tiernan was starting to beat him in the ratings when he was on the LLS. It's not that Tiernan is anything spectacular. He was simply doing something that Tubridy never really did on the his show - show genuine interest in the people he was interviewing and let them talk. In a good interview, a list of questions should be guidance, not something to strictly adhere to. An interviewer with natural curiosity and a nose for a good story will let their guests go off on tangents and go with it. Not Tubridy, and that's a big weakness.



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