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Tucker Carlson at the Bolshoi Ballet (threadbans in op)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I'm no sure his viewership age demographic on fox news would be similar to the age demographic that would use twitter. Twitter does seem a weird platform to host long videos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Why bother, seems to be becoming a bit of a bad social media trope (maybe misinfo coming from people younger than the "War on Terror" period who know little about it, as well as deliberate disinfo) that the US "killed" x million Iraqis and Syrians in its wars in ME (probably incl. Syrians the Russian airforce bombed in the totals!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    While the median age of an average fox viwer is 65, I don't know if that included the viewers for his conspiracy theories and bullshít time slot on fox.

    Also age isn't the barrier it was in relation to Internet technology, given those who are 65 today have had the opportunity to be exposed to it since their 40s.

    Even people in the same age range here, who wouldn't have had the same level of exposure due to the poor infrastructure, are savvy enough to use the Internet for shopping, hobbies, keeping in touch with people, etc in my experience.

    Personally don't and never had a twitter account, but based on its design yeah it isn't the best place to host long videos or streaming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Stewball


    Russian deaths alone at 350k...haha

    Not even the Americans are anywhere close to that number. 110k (leaked document) is their figure and that includes injured not just killed.

    The BBC have a number of dead Russian soldiers at 44k. The BBC number is probably about right considering it's from deaths documented in Russia.

    Civilian deaths in the Ukraine are relatively quiet low - compared to the 200k estimated number of Iraqi civilians killed since 2002 and of course the number of civilians slaughtered by the zionists in just 4 months in Gaza.

    Anyway the thread isn't about your nonsense, so I won't hijack it any further. And the good news is Tucker's interview with "Putler" will air tonight.

    I'm looking forward to it already. Enjoy!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,839 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The internet is forever, this “interview “ will be around longer than he will. What a legacy to leave behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    If the US had any sense they’d be thinking the same thing as Verhofstadt and banning an obvious agent against the state from travelling back.

    In the new cold war, the "left" or whatever you call yourselves, have simple switched positions with the right. Once it was the likes of McCarthy going after the "Communist traitors", now it's the likes of yourself. It's honestly bizarre to live through.

    CNN literally interviewed America's biggest enemy at the time, the man behind the deaths of thousands of Americans on American soil, yet none of you cared them. None of you called for CNN to be banned from America, or arrested for treason.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭mikefromcork


    Watches Russia today, 'concerned' about immigrants, supports or at best both-sides the Russian fascists. Where does this stream of identiclowns come from? Oh hi Elon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    To be honest international leaders give so many interviews the only ones that are memorable are the ones where the subject is challenged or says something unusual like the Axios interview of Trump during the pandemic. This will be a fluff piece for Putin, probably very boring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Hey, asked you a while back. What is the moral ambiguity around Putin's invasion of Ukraine that we're missing out on? You said everything isn't black and white which was a bit vague. This seems to be more you ranting about the left than anything else.


    If we're referring to Bin Laden. The post 911 interview of him was by Al Jazeera. It was broadcast by CNN. And in that case, amounted to knowing the enemy rather than propaganda for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭McFly85


    If I thought for a second that there was a sliver of legitimacy to this interview, it would be worthwhile, but there isn’t.

    Carlson isn’t a legitimate journalist, Putin wouldn’t allow him an interview if he was.

    This is citizen using his position to allow a foreign autocrat to sow disharmony in America, it’s not crazy to think that there might be some consequences to those actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    What's the point? You'll never listen, and you know it. My general point was that people like you will take literally all pro Western propaganda as fact, while believing that everything the other side pushes is lies. The Russian's could call a nice day a nice day, the West could say it's a bad day, and you'll likely believe the West. Essentially these wars and how they manifest themselves in the average mind are cartoonish good vs evil battles; the righteous against the wicked and nothing else. The Russians are capable of no truth because they are evil, while the West is not capable of lies because they are good. Can you honestly say to yourself that that's not the case?

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Repo101


    He will bring up 5 or 6 typical items that he has discussed in interviews before...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I think it's a bit disingenuous that you won't explain what the supposed moral ambiguity is. I'd suspect it's more that it's very easily challenged. People from both the left and right oppose the invasion of Ukraine, you're trying to make it into the left versus the right.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    You are my point. I could highlight some truths to prove my point further, but you'd just dismiss everything I say. Why even engage in debate, when you already know everything anyway?

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Such a hard hitting interview of a world leader from CNN's Emma Burnett


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Sick of seeing Zelenskyy going full dancing to get billions and billions of dollars from the American Tax Payers.

    Putin needs a little exposure, it’s not as if he lies about having massive houses for him and his friends, unlike others..ahem.

    not a fan of either, as you can tell.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Most political interviews are puff pieces. The putin interview if so will be more egregious as there is so much to criticise him about, getting his country into a protacted war, getting them in trade dispute with so many countries, getting neighbouring counties to join Nato, press suppression and being dictator for the past 25 years. Putin has been a terrible leader for Russia but I doubt any of these points will be brought up by Tucker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,839 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    There ain't no party like an Ultra MAGA party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,839 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    To be fair, he probably prefers doing that instead of seeing his country getting scoured by the Russian mafia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The fact you're not willing to highlight the truths sounds more like they're truths that aren't necessarily true at all. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭brickster69


    True, but you just get a feeling this one is going to be different don't you ? Certainly lot's of questions will be asked after it.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I doubt it. Authorities leaders like Putin dare not express regret or show weakness. Putin is leader for life until he dies or is killed/removed violently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,050 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Given the fact he's been pushing Russian propaganda for ages, it sounds more like he'll give Putin a particularly soft interview. Carlson and Putin's aim is to reduce military aid from the US. So ya,I guess it's different when somebody is trying to enable genocide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,400 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    What the US does is up to them and Carlson is a citizen (I assume!).

    You'd get so sick of the hypocrite posters here wailing about likes of Guy Verhofstadt commenting Tucker should be persona non grata in the EU or that the EU is autocratic, because it banned RT/Sputnik etc. (made it harder to access anyway, probably tougher to de-platform it completely without harsher measures, and it is a balance).

    Russia is an enemy that is targetting the EU for destruction, the internet, information and the media generally is just an attack surface.

    Why shouldn't Russia's mouths (like Tucker Carlson) be excluded, and its media platforms made more diffficult to access in the EU?

    It is a only a "Cold" war now, but if you listen to what Russia say about the EU & some Eastern members on the regular, it bears comparison to what they said about Ukraine for a long time - we know how that ended up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Zelenskyy did not want this war. Zelenskyy did not start this war. Zelenskyy was actually trying to downplay the threat of invasion in the days preceding this war. Zelenskyy is accidentally high profile because of this war.

    He is doing what any leader of a mid size country in peril would do trying to get help from larger countries.

    if it wasn’t Zelenskyy it would be whatever other Ukranian leader youd be complaining about.



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