What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Some would, they seemed to be silenced by those who want a rematch of 2020.

Think quite a few Republicans have just written off 2024 at this stage. Around nine months to go, so who knows what will happen?

And to think, if the Republican Senators voted to convict trump in the second impeachment, they would be gifted a somewhat viable candidate against a single-term Biden in Haley.

Well well well, how the turntables...

The sooner you lance a boil the better. In 2021 the GOP Senator's taught that Trump would go away. TBF the Democrats taught the same and did not start to pursue criminal prosecutions until 12-18 months later.

I say a significant number of GOP senator's if they could set the clock back they would. The migrant bill that many in the GOP wanted is now dead and gone for 10 years. Many of them want to fund Ukraine and Trumpism is creating issues there. As the saying goes its hard to get the Genie back in the bottle.

Trump is like Haughy you will only get one chance to take him down showing empathy or mercy is not something tgat you should do its a sign-off weakness. They do not.play by the rules.

I do not share the confidence many have here that Biden will walk this election. If anything the polling shows that Trump is leading. Neither do I think the Robert Kennedy will hurt Trump more than Biden. He will cause serious trouble for Biden in the old industrial belt for Biden and may take states there.

It's highly unlikely that SCOTUS will keep Trump off the ballot. Its a significant hurdle to remove a name from a ballot paper. TBF to the justices they have ruled against Trump a number of time and will rule against him in the immunity case as wellas the civil cases. But they will not take him off the ballot as he has not been convicted of anything that goes back to the failure of the Democrats to start prosecutions in the and the GOP Senator's.

It's a bit like a special forces soldier even after a terorist is down they put one in the head to make sure

Another theory is that the prosecution of Trump is to boost his chances of achieving the nomination. Then he is easily beaten by Biden in the general election. Some of the defeated campaigns have accused the various indictments of overshadowing the race for the GOP nomination. Imagine others though Trump would emerge as endorser rather than a candidate.

It goes back to Iowa in 2016, same playbook. Guts of a decade later, rinse & repeat. Depressing really.

Indeed. The fact that a fair percentage of the population is willing to believe one man, a conman and court-confirmed sexual deviant with multiple bankruptcies against his name, 4 times indicted and twice impeached, over the findings of the courts and Congress, just confirms to me that its a cult we're dealing with.

I kind of doubt he'd be happy even then.

I think I remember watching a documentary on Trump shortly before the 2016 Election, where they covered a lot of Trump's adventures and failures throughout the 80's and 90's. From his early days working with his father up to the incredible disaster that was the Trump Taj Mahal.

One segment covered Trump making the move to Reality TV and "The Apprentice". In it, one of the creating producers of The Apprentice described going to Trump Tower in the late 90's to pitch the idea to Donald Trump, to see if he'd be interested being the lead character in their new show. He described a sorry sight upon entering Trump's office. The room apparently stank and looked like it was decaying, as if it hadn't been maintained in years.

Futhermore, upon agreeing to be in the show Trump apparently insisted that he be described as a "Billionare". Apparently this was very important to him, and came up often.

Kind of paints a picture of a washed up loser, already then in the late 90's, early 2000's. who had pissed away all of his inheritence on countless failed business ideas and if it hadn't been for the life-saver of Reality TV, he would have decayed futher into obsurity.

Trump needs the limelight, and something to declare himself as special. Be it "Billionare", "The Donald", or most lately the "President of the United States". I think beyond the protections of the office of POTUS, both legal and financial, it is this sense of *being special and important* that he wants to cling onto, no matter the cost to the rest of the world.

For his efforts, I hope the history books will remember him as the danger that many of us already percieve him as.

Regarding the thing about wanting to make sure he was called a billionaire, years ago when they did the Roast of Donald Trump, the comedians were told the only thing that was off limits was his bankruptcies and saying he had less money than he claimed; they could only refer to him as a billionaire not a millionaire.

His marriages, kids... none of those were off limits. Just don't say he's not a billionaire.

SCOTUS are hearing arguments today re whether Trump should be on the ballot.

Considering his wife was involved, how the **** is it okay for Clarence Thomas to not recuse himself?

Unless Thomas himself has expressed support for the 'Stop the Steal' movement, then the argument would be that he's unduly influenced by people with whom he has a close association. I cannot discount that as a possibility, but it then opens up the question of what individuals a SCOTUS justice is surrounded by and what their political beliefs are, not just for him, but everyone on the panel. At the end of the day, they're human beings and it has to be trusted that they're making judgements on points of law rather than what their spouse thinks about a particular issue. Not a perfect system, but what system made of people is?

live feed from SCOTUS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M56LTKOHyQ

If it is a clear conflict of interest, then is there not some mechanism to recuse him without needing his approval?

If the court finds against Trump on the questions being asked, then a dissenting opinion from Thomas wouldn't really matter because such a finding requires a majority of justices to agree. If we assume that Thomas and Trump's three appointees are walking around in private wearing MAGA hats, the SCOTUS still has a non-MAGA majority of 5-4, as the assumption of conservative=Trump supporter disregards that Conservatism before Trump and after aren't exactly the same.