Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

DCC engineer said there will be section of the lane painted before everything f is finished, such as red sections at bus passenger crossing points. So yellow box outside Westwood is a good idea. Unlikely to be obeyed I’d imagine.

The gardai hardly have capacity to manage every yellow box junction in Ireland. If it was a junction with a Luas line or a junction of two major bus routes, then yes they should, but it's an entrance to a gym. I don't think the guards give a damn and you can hardly blame them.

They should create a booking system or gold pass for parking in the main parking area with a much higher level of accessibility parking spaces. If fit and able bodied people can't take public transport or simply walk those other extra 2minutes from the overflow, or God forbid actually walk or cycle to the gym, then there's no hope for us!!

With all the improvements happening around the city, the area that is considered "city" will massively expand. There might be a psychological change there where people won't expect to be able to drive to Westwood. Let's hope.

There have been some traffic measurement boxes around Marino the past 2 months, I wonder are they related to the work in Fairview? Anecdotally, I have seen a lot more traffic go through Marino while I have been home, some are really wild with the speed they go.

i thought no one cycled in the rain?

I agree that the design of that part of the cycle lane is an absolute mess, it's a danger to everyone who uses it, and i'm surprised there's not more accidents there... The best way to have designed it would be to remove that tree and align the section past the footbridge... There's many who use that cycle lane as a two way lane and i don't blame them for it... And the reason why it's not properly designed by removal of the trees? chronic nimbyism! And by the same locals who will tell you the area is a mess..

I thought it had come out that most of the people campaigning for retention of the trees weren't local, with most of them living on the Southside of the city? Or am I misremembering it?

The outbound side was a nightmare for cyclists for years. The section from the optometrists to the footbridge was an absolute death trap; the perfect combination of crappy painted cycle lane, idiots swerving in last minute, more idiots opening their doors into the cycle lane without watching for cyclists, slower cyclists who insist on mounting the path to get in front of the queue only to hold everyone else up cos there's no room to overtake (only to repeat the process at the next set of lights which you were only stopped at because you couldn't overtake the slow fecker earlier) buses and taxis pulling in without checking, saps wandering into traffic on match days, crushed plastic pint glasses everywhere on a Monday morning after matches, lazy pricks legging it across the road instead of using the footbridge, schoolkids jostling at the bus stops.......

If I'm going any further than the Malahide Road turnoff, I used to go through the park (especially if I got caught at the lights at the Fire Brigade station on the Nth Strand/Annesley Bridge). I don't blame anyone for using the lane on the park side of the road, the other side is like a meat grinder nightmare.

As far as I am concerned this area is now a "no go" if you are going by car. I was going to a match in Croke Park recently. Instead of going Howth Road to Fairview. I naively said to myself sure Clontarf way might be as good or better.

There was a "stop/go" system at Westwood no movement. Really backed up for ages, people doing u-turns because of it. I did the same myself. Went the East Wall way, but everyone else had the same idea. Barely made the match on time, even though there was a much smaller crowd than normal.

Also given the nature of the roadworks it is an extremely dangerous area for the elderly infirm or disabled, uneven paths, cones, dug up ground. A real "war zone" feel to it. Those with businesses in the area must be driven demented as well.

I hope all this building work will be worth it in the end and it, but at the moment the area is a disaster to travel through. They might as well ban cars altogether from that stretch of road given the congestion/roadworks it is pointless.

They cut down trees and people don't even notice. It's just something people latch on to as an excuse for zero improvement to the area.

Both can be true. Trees are absolutely important for the city but they are also used as stalking horse for people objecting to a project. Trees are cut down across the city all the time for various reasons but you generally only hear people complaining about it when they are objecting to a housing or transport project.

No, there’s a small compound there now for park staff. They never replaced the large changing room area that was there before the works.

I can't remember old changing rooms to be honest. But I didn't live in the area until after the port tunnel was built. As mentioned, didn't they build new changing areas?