Immigration to Ireland - policies, challenges, and solutions *Read OP before posting*

And the jobs that the foriegn nationals do, the work in hospitals, the work in schools, the work in hospitality & the care industry...all those jobs should just be left unfilled, once you remove the migrants?

The migrants that are building your houses in the first place.

How quickly do you think the country would grind to a halt if all the migrants left tomorrow?

Less than 10% of the work force,

Very much over stated for some reason,

But you can see where tensions come from when people see themselves essentially being pushed out of their own towns , cities and villages because they cannot afford to compete,

That causes resentment, resentment leads to anger , anger leads to confrontation,

And we wonder where the bogey man far right came from,

It didn't come from Russia

Poor government decisions and corruption.....

Sounds all so familiar in 2023/2024

Yeah but that isn't the point being discussed. The poster made the point that it's crazy or madness (can't remember the precise adjective used) to add population where services are stretched. I'm simply pointing out that this does not appear to be a sincerely-held concern because the poster does not appear to have any issue if the population increase and strained services were caused by any large swathe of the emigrant community returning home.

Therefore it's not population growth + strained services that appears to be their issue, but non-Irish nationals + strained services. If that's what one believes, fair enough, I just don't see the point in dressing one concern up as something else.

I'm one of those people myself, only having to live in with the girlfriend's mum until we can get anywhere near buying our own place (she works from home too, losing my marbles). Despite that, I still remain unconvinced that I need to blame asylum seekers for my predicament or to be convinced that immigration is something that can be dramatically addressed in such a way that makes my life a fairytale of happiness without any new downsides replacing the currently existing ones.

There is no successful country in history that has thrived without immigration.

Failing countries have emigration

Successful country have immigration.

There are currently 27k asylum seekers in Ireland

Of course... now you have it! It took a lot of reading for you to comprehend that we have a duty to our own Irish people first and foremost. That's very understandable and I'm quite sure all would agree bar a tiny number of ideologues and/or those with vested interests.

Unless those jobs are paying 86k a year no one in local hospitality or tourism is going to be able to live near the place they are supposed to be promoting.

It would also create a demand for more hotel rooms, which means more construction workers, and without clearing the trade qualifications backlog, guess where those lads are coming from?

Dublin had it's busiest ever tourist year in 2019, house prices and rent only went one way.

It doesn't matter what you say or what evidence you show, the usual let everybody in idiots will always make sure that you can't differentiate between that and immigration of people actually filling jobs/working. If you are against accepting every chancer from everywhere you are against doctors etc from other countries apparently.

All the available evidence (like Sweden) should be ignored and we should just plough ahead because it's our duty as a super rich, resource heavy world leader of a nation.

There's loads of space (there were 8 million here during the famine!) and the Irish emigrated

But between 40 to 50 % of our healthcare workforce are foreign born and trained and that is in the professional roles.. doctors nurses and midwives, which are the largest grouping.

Coming primarily from India, Phillippines, Pakistan, Sudan and a large proportion from the UK.

And that is not talking about all the migrant workers in ancillary jobs in the health services.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/6a6b5-national-healthcare-statistics-2023/#healthcare-graduates

What do you want them to do? Sleep in a tent?

Nobody has problem with those type if immigrants, they are already here filling these positions and have been for a long time............different thing altogether to the lorry loads in droves they're shipping in with no prospects, nowhere to live no plans for employment welfare migrants...ie other country's bums

Replying to posters conflating all immigrants legal or otherwise is the reason you keep gaving to read posts about LEGAL migrant workers.

And on the Afghanis, that study should also have noted the fact that people from countries at war frequently have their education disrupted, not to forget 50% of the population are banned from school by the Taliban and other warring theological leadership!

Post the entire study and we'll examine what exactly was examined and by whom?