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Dairy Calves 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,452 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Numbers are probably similar but delays in getting them registered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Out of the yard 150 heifers 180 bulls if a lad takes numbers of them as they are and isn't just picking out the big ones



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭visatorro


    You'd wonder alright. In fairness he goes into detail on YouTube thread. A big variation in calves on his farm though. A bad FR is still a bad calf. Good FR type probably doesn't get respect that it deserves.

    Fella I know is a newish entrant to dairy. Was finishing a lot of coloured bulls. When he started he said he was going to finish his beef calves. Lasted one year. He just said it took the same amount of feed to finish the continental in less time. Never got into the finances of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭cosatron


    We finished our own dairy calves for years and were to get them out at 24 to 26 months with good weight and similar feeding to coloured animals but we have a good strong cow, I say your friends problem is cow type and high ebi bulls



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Is calving later with ye this year? The calf agent is calling tomorrow to clean out what I have, and usually they wouldn’t touch them from mid Jan to mid May.

    Calf trade has been very strong up to now…Nice charolais making €350+.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Registrations down 40k in dairy herd versus last spring, a combination of poor may, poorer conception rates to sexed semen with it been used more than ever before and the icbf fiasco re the geno-typing scheme you'll probably get a good touch for your calves through to end of February before the glut comes, ment to be serious issues re ship capacity for exports versus last year so could further help things your side



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I was looking at the calf sale in Carnaross earlier and saw five or six well done BBx calves all around 30 days old selling from €550 to €705. Whoever bought them would want to put them on whole milk or a cow cause they will melt on milk replacer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,452 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Loads of calves in limbo with no tags, no genotype thus not registered. This is totally bring played down. No calves registered on system for us yet this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Was listening to the journal podcast two weeks ago, and jk mentioned it to Aidan re the above scheme and delays he rolled out the response, it will be a non-issue and dairy farmers need to be keeping their calves for longer anyways so what harm of delays, the department/icbf seem to be gone really bad at all aspects of their remit, rolling out schemes like the above and acres with not a notion of how they'll manage them our get through the paperwork, set-up properly systems, its a sh*tshow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I know from the other thread that you are having problems with Mullinahone and information not be transferred to ICBF. Is the problem only with Mullinahone or are there delays with Cormac as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,452 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    A lad from icbf rang me the other day. In fairness he knows there's problems. He found my missing samples bar 1. Results have been sent to dept for Registration this morning. He said the lab are working 7 days a week. Biggest issue is when an envelope of samples arrives they are not scanning all the samples that come in each batch so they don't know where they are. He said the lab said they are scanning them but definitely they are not. I asked was it a Mullinahone problem, he said icbf have to be impartial....



  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Screenshot_20240205_121230_MartEye.jpg

    Today in bandon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭visatorro


    9000kg holsteins he's milking.

    I never finish anything here so no expert.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Jack98


    Anything out of them will need plenty time to come into good money be very framey types out of them. British Friesan or what I’d call an Irish type fresian will leave you far better and easier finished cattle won’t be hitting the weights of continentals but will leave a decent margin provided you’ve plenty range for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭cosatron


    All legs so. It would take a while to get them going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,702 ✭✭✭tanko


    A blind man (or woman) could see that the NGP was going to be a clusterfcuk this year, plenty of people warned about this. If there was a good payment for joining it would be something but to join when there’s no reward is something else. It’s going to be some mess when the glut of tags hits the lab.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,452 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    They reckon they'll be able to process 85000 samples a week at peak



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,948 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Sweet Jesus. Imagine giving €705 for a calf……….🙈🙈🙈🙈



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,154 ✭✭✭✭Base price




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭dh1985


    Great point tanko. If they are not rewarding people for their data, no benefit to sign up. Farmers shouldn't be offering free info to a government quango. Let them pay for it if they want it or hold out until its at least compulsory. Same organisation would be well fit to charge the farmer in a role reversal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,452 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I can never understand Belgian blues the only time they're worth money is as calves. Dont seem to sell well when older



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,386 ✭✭✭alps




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Hi looking to purchase 10 to 15 dairy calves to rear in the next few months. I am thinking its best to go with bull calves. I just wondering weather to go with angus or whiteheads what are lads opinions?

    angus are cheaper to purchase and have a 20cent bonus at slaughter and they will come in fast hopefully kill them at 20-24months at 550-600kg live weight.

    Herefords would be more expensive to purchase but only a 10cent bonus. but pros are they would grow better and carry more weight for killing.

    What have lads found works best ? I think its probably better to stick to one breed instead of buying a bit of both? opinions ? pointers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The problem with AA's is there is a significant amount that have a very low growth rate and poor grading around (there is a few HE around as well but not as many) if you can avoid buying these then the AA are probably the best bet

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Yeah some of them bulls for the dairy heifers really do struggle but will try to get some growthy ones with some width. But it is hard to get them all right as just try to pick them as best as possible in the mart. i reared some BB dairy calves the last few years and tbh that can be a nightmare to get to grow but some nice growthy ones in the mart and then as weanlings there small butty ones. What prices are dairy calves running this year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Must be the ferry or delays in calf registration because my calf buyer is calling in a hours time to take anything ready to go.

    I’m not complaining at all. It’s nice to get calves away on time, and not be facilitating fcukin imports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,386 ✭✭✭alps


    1 ferry operating. 6 trucks 3 times a week. This is probably ⅓ of normal capacity. Throw in a high sea here and there and we'll have a mess on this side.

    The unsold calves at marts are going to be sent home this year...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    What are calves making aa and he medium sized



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Maybe get onto Ryanair?

    Letting a problem build up is never good. The initial losses can appear formidable but when the problem compounds the initial losses can look quite attractive iykwim.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭green daries


    Calves halved in value this week I'm told

    Friesian bulls pretty unsaleable



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