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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Two muppets named and shamed about their parts in the Dublin riots

    no redactions for them unlike RTE

    still no mention of the next chapter of their own never ending scandal six stories in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Oh I agree, a rebrand is a veneer of change, not actual change. The problem for government is that they have limited room for manoeuvre - RTE is hugely important to them to get their messages out and is broadly in alignment editorially with their policies. RTE doesn't really ask hard questions, so it won't piss them off so that they actually turn on them. A hostile national broadcaster, even hobbled by cuts would be problematic. You don't need huge budgets to ask hard questions.

    Unfortunately for government though it looks like the public want radical change in RTE, so my guess is they will market outward facing change as inward structural change.

    I guess it would depend on whether other media goes along with such a wheeze.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,476 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The government has took no action on RTE except for statements and giving them a large cheque to keep them afloat.

    Catherine Martin is clearly soft and RTE knows it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,582 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Time to put the boot in.

    This lot have been butt-reaming poor JQT for was to long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Can they not cull the insipid radio presenters?

    Give younger people a job, and a chance.

    I could name a few... Marty Whelan, Lorcan Murray.

    Jaysus, it makes me want to queue up at the trees.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    I think you are going to run into these questions no matter what you do. If you were setting up RTE for the first time, you would have questions as to exactly what is going to do, what kinds of programmes are they going to make etc.

    I would not see it doing stuff for newspapers and other publications. It would be primarily radio and television.

    Yes, Ireland already does this stuff but it does it in a non transparent way. So for example, 40 million is spent on commissioning in RTE but overall 200m is given to RTE from the licence fee (correct me if I am wrong). That seems a lot of money propping up RTE.

    Take all of RTE's subsidy away from them and with the money set up an independent State-owned commissioning body and let all the broadcasters (including a now-private RTE) benefit from it.

    Of course there will be questions and initially a lot will be got wrong but the better focus should lead to efficiencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Over time they would become the new RTE with all its problems. The reason for this is that would be occupying the same niche that RTE now occupies and it would be come large and bloated. Right now it works well because it is small and focused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,582 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    If a lot of them concentrated on serving the public instead of lining their own pockets with various bungs and schemes the

    taxpayer would get better value.

    Don’t you think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,582 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I don't suppose that anyone thinks its strange that in an outfit which is no stranger to investigative pieces in other companies and public services that they are "shocked" and "sickened" by stuff which was going on under their own eyes?

    On their own premises?

    By their own workmates and management?

    Seems to me that everybody else was 'fair game' but the portcullis dropped and the drawbridge raised at any sniffing around Montrose.

    Uhmmm........



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,476 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Wider issue is whether RTE is properly able to hold large corporations, government, banks etc to account given their attitudes towards public money.

    I doubt Dee Forbes was interested in exposing any waste in public money during her time in charge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Can I ask you about your reasoning for proposing a move of Lyric to the NCH?

    From what I hear, they are struggling to run an orchestra over there with morale on the floor and various players/admin out "on the sick" due to stress over the last while. I'm not saying it was much better when the NSO was part of RTE.

    Surely it makes more sense to keep Lyric, RnaG and a more PSB focused Radio 1 together. Technology, studios and HR/personnel could be interchangeable or some way centralised that way as opposed to doing everything in triplicate and encouraging more stupid little empire building by vain, useless middle managers hired during the Forbes era.

    It's all supposed to be PSB audio, at the end of the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I agree, regardless of the direction you go, as long as there is reform.

    You can see how RTÉ spend that 40m through their annual commission report. (Sport and News both take up most of RTÉ's spend in house).

    I also thing that a year cost analysis should be made on any government spending. We have a tendency just to think things are going well on a change with no further examination of the spending and if further efficiencies can be produced.

    For example lets say the government went with your idea, they might put CnaM in charge of the 200m in commissioning, but we might see no real change as an audience but the CnaM will produce their annual report showing how wonderful the programmes they are producing are and how well everything is going, but lets say from an audience point of view or even from a producers point of view it is a horrible experience, the CnaM will continue to defend what they are doing without any independent examination.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Lyric FM is "the home of the NSO" or at least that was what they used to say, as it is the classic music station and since the NSO is part of the NCH, I don't see why Lyric FM can't move under the control of the NCH ... it remains in Limerick just under the management of the NCH.

    This comes back to my point about when things move there should be a report: -

    1. Report on how well the move was managed (that would be nice reading since it took them an extra year)
    2. An annual report on how the NSO is doing and how it has benefited from the move or not.

    I think it makes sense to keep Irish language together, while providing lyric FM from a different management team. In other word diminish RTÉ as all of these brands are already at arms length to RTÉ.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Again this is why we need independent reports on all public services, perhaps not every year but certainly every 5 years.

    Do we ever see anything real come from RTÉ, TG4, Screen Ireland or CnaM 5 year strategies? Largely they are filled with things that are not quantifiable and the internal reports check off what has been achieved which is almost everything.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think the point about being made was why do they need to look outside of RTÉ for a presenter of the 9 to 10 Radio 1 slot when there are plenty of people in RTÉ already capable of taking on that position. Moving Marty to Radio 1 from Lyric FM and replacing him with someone else wouldn't be a big task. There are many other presenters who could take on the role.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Taken from the Irish Daily Mail, but very interesting reading.

    Looks like My Garrihy and Ms Ryan are not too well liked in the RTE staff offices.

    Taken from above link:

    However, the staff member who originally brought up the issue said that they believe that some of those stars are a creation of RTÉ, made their name there, and are now able to make money on the back of the national broadcaster outside Montrose.

    It's understood there was support and applause for the staff member for their statement from others in attendance.

    Also, that Dan Healy guy, head of Radio 2 in RTE seems rather clueless. When he defends Lottie Ryan and Doireann Garrihy, he calls the 'online abuse' they received as misogynistic. Yet when the Two Johnnies were hired, there were old interviews dug up to 'paint them as misognists', they almost lost their jobs at the station, and had to issue a grovelling apology.

    Lottie Ryan or Doireann NEVER faced such repercussions for all their dealings, but then again, the Two Johnnies didn't have the same connections as Ryan or Garrihy, did they?

    I saw it discussed, when DWTS launched, that something was 'off' between Zamperelli and Garrihy. Seems like the bad blood is boiling over. But she has a podcast with Lottie, so she won't say nothing about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Callan is not outside of RTÉ, he is a long time contractor. Always on programs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,913 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Is it caption competition time?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    “He killed 16 Czechoslovakians. Guy was an interior decorator”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭inajock


    Entering the Learjet and off to the Shelbourne for bubbles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,515 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,329 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Two seasoned swindlers rewriting the rulebook. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Don’t forget, Doireann has a boat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,185 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    A boat.....for rent! Particularly for event launches, 21/30/40/50th birthdays, and other junkets.

    Card/AMEX/Crypto/Gold not accepted, payment only through barter accounts in Isle of Man/Jersey/Guernsey or cash in unmarked 20s and brown envelopes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    B & M.jpg

    Y'know what Moya, I feel a bit of a long-term, nondescript medical condition is coming on - - - Me too Breda, me too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    It's interesting to see how the bts events are poisoning the well of RTE.

    What I find interesting, is how Garrihy's arrogance is still going as if nothing happened. And you can see the tension bleeding over now too.

    I doubt Emma O'Kelly is a lone voice among the disgruntled.



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