Is begging on the street illegal?

i seen the burger alright, but i didnt see who was eating it. i was too busy looking at his McCafe coffee and waiting for him to put it down so i could swoop in and take the sticker off of his cup

In Dublin there are soup kitchens or places to get cheap food for the homeless I presume they are looking for money to buy drink or cigarettes if I give them money it's no more than a euro .I don't think there's anyone that needs money to buy food or people that cannot buy a burger in McDonald's I think begging is ok as long as they are not just walking up to people and asking for money

Did you not see the post detailing that begging near ATM's can be stopped by the Garda?

Maybe things are a little better here, but across the water they have a history of moving beggars out to stop them reducing the "scenic attributes" of an area populated by the rich, or indeed it can be a politically popular move.

I don't normally give. I do have concerns that I might be taken for a ride.

What I wonder is the difference between begging with the aim of securing money that is needed with nothing but a feelgood factor fulfilling the clients part of the contract, or being assaulted day in, day out in cities and even at home via the TV screen, with beggars trying to extract money by pushing dross that I don't want or need for sheer profit?

I think the beggars have the moral high ground, at least they don't have some bimbo fronting them, complete with large mammary glands trying to make out that soap in a fancy bottle will improve your way of life and turn your hair shiny as a bonus.

"I haven't eaten for thee days" might be as big a pile of fiction as the bimbo's promises, but at least the storyline credits the punter with more intelligence than needed to sit and waste the time needed to digest a little marketing "story".

Not in the main shopping areas. The police actually move them on when they find them there.

Anyway the GAA here are worse than the beggars. Every Christmas i cant count the amount of people coming up to me asking me to buy GAA tickets. I saw a post from someone who had a solution to that last year and tried it myself this year and it worked a treat.

You get a book of tickets of your own. When someone asks you take out yours and say i'll buy yours if you buy mine. Then they make a joke and say ah sure no point selling to each other so and off they go.

Then you give back the book when the gaa come looking for the money you sold it for. Just say, i found no buyers, everyone I asked was trying to sell their own tickets.

So once you don't see them it is OK? It also isn't true from my experience as I saw homeless people begging all over every US city I have been in. You will see a few tents here but we don't have encampments like they have. Don't see people pushing shopping trolleys around Dublin with all their possessions but a common sight in the great USA

We are just not that advanced.

You would think a country that is prepared to nuke half the planet would do a little more to provide a way of life that is worth the effort of "protecting" would you not?

Social media? Try the Romanian ambassador a few years ago who wa embarrassed by them living under the M50 while they were known to have houses and apartments back home. She said herself it was a very lucrative business.

i would'nt say cheap food, i'd say FREE FOOD! its often doo-gooders or religious charities being exploited. They already know where to go to get free food. This country lacks genuine homeless people. More often than not its often the addicts that are "homeless" but only homeless during high foot traffic towns and peak hours apparently. They game the system and want money not food. i used to spend alot of time dealing with them on a street level, and had family who worked in places like kitchens and food banks or religious orders.

There's a loop they do, essentially its this: wake up, go to x place for free breakfast, go to x other place for free clothes and sleeping bag, go to x place to sell them for money, go out begging, get free lunch and come back to their spot in the afternoon, beg more, evening to night meet up with dealer and pay x amount for stuff, go back home (not a house but like a hostel or religious ran bed and boards place i mean).

Some who don't want to be surrounded by other addicts decide to go cold turkey and sleep outside to avoid being around all that, some others are in trouble and can't go back due to robbing or having police after them so they may sleep outside too.

Another problem is that these free goods places only enable these people to stay addicts and are very much taking advantage of, people who have no intention on getting off their addiction and are only out collecting money so they can get their score bags later on, or some cans. Some people who don't even need free food still go and collect it too, i've litrelly seen people near where i live (addict drinkers) go out for the day, doing their "rounds" they do a same set in stone tour around town, always collecting their free breakfasts and knowing where to go, free lunch and dinner etc, and just spending all their money on drink. These free food places let them spend more of their own money on drink, due to meals being covered. They brag on the bus and talk about meeting up with others to do the exact same. Free clothes they routinely collect are even sold for cash to those clothing material recycling places. They pay by weight of the clothes.

Real homeless people are scared and afraid and living/sleeping in places like under bridges or in tents out of public view, and are sleeping rough. i never see any of these begging, and they don't go around with pre-srcripted sob stories either.

I cannot disagree with you.

The problem is that people don't easily slot into boxes and as you say, anyone with a mansion should not be allowed to beg.

There might be an occasion where someone cannot prove their claim having only heard of a relatives death. A long shot, most improbable but it might happen.

I know a property owner near Swynnerton Staffordshire led an itinerant lifestyle in wales, no one knew he owned a farm and buildings.

People are infinitely variable, thank goodness.

"Buyer beware I suppose" aggressive begging or causing obstruction is illegal, so my attitude is live and let live.

Why stop someone gaining the price of a meal simply because in the eyes of some it lowers the tone of the place?

Drugs though are a different matter. If it were a fix for the beggar and simply that, I doubt it would bother me. It's the support of the dealer and the condonation of the disgusting habit that is wrong, so begging for drug money should in my opinion be a crime.

Not that either of us stands a prayer of getting our limits considered of course :-)

I think if you got to "do gooder" then it sums the entire garbage up.

You surely didn't expect a rational discussion?

Do gooder is a very popular UK term used by the hard of thinking that seem to expect that it's a human duty and entitlement not to do any good, with any divergence from that approach deserving contempt.

Anyway I didn't read beyond those two words, there is no point, I know the way the rest goes.

Funny world is it not, I feel quite proud and happy to do someone a bit of good. I guess I'm just too old for this modern way of thinking.

i have no issue with people who want to genuinly do good in the world, what "doo gooder" meaning is, reffers to people who only do things to be seen by others as good but with no genuine interest in actually helping, like taking a selfie with a homeless person for their instagram feed and then walking off afterwards etc. virtue signalling in a way, or posting a ukraine flag as your profile pic

You really want me to post my salary?

It’s enough for me to run a second home in Florida and pay for my cruisers berthing in Monaco.

I suggest you adopt a different phrase then. "do gooder" has been taken and has been in use for a long, long time.

It simply chastises and attempts to poke fun out of people giving a damn about what's done to others.

No one using that term has ever before implied or suggested it as a self publicity stunt.

Taking a publicity piccy with the destitute is hardly doing good is it? I f you want to use misleading words than can mean just about anything, why dont you use woke instead? That seems to be the most popular route to nebulous uncertainty and is unlikely to be challenged.

Could you elaborate on this sentence?

“This country lacks genuine homeless people”

Im a bit lost on this description.

My salary?