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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,278 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    That would be a lot more appealing if it was shared amongst private broadcasters for public service stuff.

    Let RTE scale down their operation and encourage other sources of PSB



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,062 ✭✭✭political analyst


    As I said, the new charge/levy wouldn't just be for RTÉ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,418 ✭✭✭Trampas


    George Lee is 10th highest earner in rte. How the hell did he manage that. Fks off to be a td and failed at that when he couldn’t get his way and walked back into his job and seems to have got a pay rise for his td experience. He’s hopeless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    And does nothing, gets wheeled out once a month for a few minutes, doesn't make any sense,at least tubridy between radio and TV was clocking up some hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,278 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Does he do anything else apart from the odd environment report which usually consists of simply telling us what was in an already published article.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,896 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Like putting a charge on airline tickets to pay for swimming pools. What has paying for a service that allows me to WFH for to do with paying for some guy to do 6 hours of 'work' a week for a radio station that only doctors' waiting rooms listen to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Banzai600


    We dont watch the trash on RTE or that cheap @ss looking format of TV3 etc, news, nothing, ever. Subscribed to web tv services though. And yes, we paid our tv license with a debate....


    with RTE we're a small island, and a small pool to select from, but they are still shoring up the same names for yrs etc, thats how i see it. Cringy tv shows, The skeptic in me, says we dont know the half of it, or the waste there may be - ppl being paid a full week, but maybe not putting n the hours. Who knows. and i understand that there may be a proportion of ppl who do actually work, maybe one or two of them will come forward with more revelations, but its hard to see, im sure theyre all under the thumb and being wared to say nout.


    why isnt it shut it down, sell it off, and let someone outside qualified come in and shake the place up. that would be ideal. Like the government, they smile while slapping you in the face taking your hard earned money, burning it in front of you and laughing as they take another wad to set afire.


    zero transparency for the taxpayer , we're expendable cash batteries to them.

    And laughing in the face of the public service Oireachtas too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Why should RTÉ continue to exist?

    This idea that radio stations and newspapers in local areas really needs to be investigated. What public service are they currently providing and what extra public services will the provide in the future with such funding?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Larry Bass on Newstalk again

    Larbar has been the producer of RTÉ Sunday Night Entertainment show since Popstars back in 1999 and for 3 only Moya Doherty's Tyrone took over for the All Ireland Talent Show. Larbar now produces Dancing with the Stars. 


    https://www.goloudplayer.com/episodes/im-opposed-to-paying-it-public-a-N2IzZmJiNjBjN2ZlODcwMWJmMmExZTIyYWU1M2FiMGU=


    The media are really surprised that ordinary people on the minimum wage and those on the average wage and even those on the average RTÉ wage are still annoy at this with the report henry mckenna taking to the streets. 


    Mary: Scamming that went on, and there is more to come, she is risking it, know people who have never paid, she has had reminder letter she's paid it for 30 years, always paid, the spend that on flip flops and over payments. 



    Right thing to do for the national broadcaster, covid and thinking it is important, concerning about the top ten earners, they should be making changes. 


    Next she did pay, hesitantly, because of the sheingans, but did it for the greater good, RT was scapegoated, no problem with people earning money. 


    Reluctant


    He might need the break in jail, a bit of a holiday 


    Student 


    Doesn't pay never has, but his wife does, rubbish nothing of any quality, lots of commercial money.


    Not quality programmes


    very very poor, in the last 4 years programmes are terrible


    Larry Bass


    Favour of RTÉ: 


    Same old same old defunct licence fee. People are questioning why they are paying. 

    Then moves goes on about the licence fee nothing about what is being provide or the mismanagement of RTÉ. Kick the can down the road. Decides how we have new current affairs.


    Sorry was typing while listening hope ye can make some sense of it

    US: Mismanagement of RTÉ, need for PSB

    THEM: It's just about Ryan, think about RTÉ does for culture and democracy

    US: We know we largely agree there is a need for PSB, but not RTÉ

    THEM: We should change the licence fee so

    US: No that is not what we said, we want real reform and that means real change within RTÉ

    THEM: So the licence fee.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Iguarantee


    I found your post quite hard to understand.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,752 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭Emblematic




    Yes, in the old TE days, people used to write to their TDs in the hope of getting a telephone line.

    The problem is that the State is very reluctant to allow competition for the (quite rational) fear that it will undermine its investment in the nationalised entity. Yet without that competition there is very little incentive to innovate. Hence the year-long waits for a basic telephone line.

    When TE was eventually privatised, huge numbers of people bought shares in it, and so even though it was a private company the thinking remained nationalised. There was very little incentive for the government promote proper competition as this would undermine the value of voters' shares.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Look if I have to explain the basics :) Yeah I was in a rush last night.

    And the page kept freezing on me.

    Basically you will hear most people unhappy with RTÉ and how it is run. One or two people saying its required. The guy doing the vox-pop surprised that people are still angry and that the story hasn't gone away, followed by a brief interview with Larry Bass who talks about all the good RTÉ does.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think you will find that that was Dept P&T, I thought a good bit of the issue surrounding phonelines had been solved with the intro of Telecom Éireann in the mid-1980s.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    40K to live in Dublin 4! No way , either pay more or move RTE outside Dublin..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I think it's time people starting calling out this Larry Bass chancer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Thanks for the correction. I think the general point remains though.



  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I assume there are no figures on the number of Toy Show the Musical adverts played on the wireless and TV and how much they were worth vs actually cost?

    It also shows up the power of advertising on RTE. At the moment the government seem to be keeping them afloat with nonsense adverts for local councillors etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭jmcc


    This might come as a bit of a surprise but TE was actually testing ADSL broadband in 1998. It was the privatisation of TE by the wannabe masters of the universe in FF/PDs that made a complete mess of things and turned TE from a largely debt-free company into a basketcase. Ironically, one of the FF ministers wanted to sell off part of RTE around the same time (I think it may have been to do with the launch of Digital Terrestrial TV in Ireland. One of the demonstrations from RTE of a set-top box with inbuilt phoneline Internet access showed that there were some people in RTE who were thinking ahead. ISDN wasn't broadband but it was marketed heavily at the time.

    Regards...jmcc

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,944 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Albert Reynolds kicked off the digital exchange programme in ~1979-80 but it took years.

    In my area in Dublin it was 1984-85 (so into the TE era) when our neighbours finally got phone lines, some of them had been waiting ten years - for many years our house was the only one nearby with a phone, people would ring the doorbell asking to make a call and leave 20p in a little money box we kept beside the phone!

    There was no capacity in the exchange so no lines could be provided.

    The policy then seemed to be to only replace the oldest / most decrepit auto (mechanical) exchanges with digital, keep the rest of the mechanical auto exchanges going as long as possible, and concentrate on replacing manual exchanges with digital to save on staffing costs. So some places literally went from having phones with no dials to having the latest digital exchange, meanwhile in much of Dublin you couldn't get a line at all!

    It wasn't until well into the 90s that the last of the old mechanical exchanges went.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    The PAC should oblige Forbes to undergo an independent medical assessment. Sick notes from her own GP don’t cut it at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    He was very good at parroting NPHET/government propaganda during Covid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They should be called out on this.

    According to RTÉ advertising was free because it was a promo for an RTÉ product, but a few years back they were saying the opposite about the RTÉ Guide and that promos were only for TV or Radio programmes but not for ancillary services such as the Guide.

    Then they advertised the Musical on RTÉ Gold, a station that runs no advertising and from what I can gather no promos for any other RTÉ services.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    On a side note, Eir have yet to upgrade my parents area in Dublin. I got them Vodafone for a year on the eir network just to reduce the price. Called sky because I though they had a deal with Virgin Media for its network, but that only covers Virgin's Fibre network and not their older cable networks, so my parents are back with Virgin Media, but at least they are only paying €43 per month.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    This Larry Bass is badly a neutral figure. He's had skin in the game a long time and it definitely benefits him for rte to keep paying for his company to churn out the dismal rubbish he has made his money on.

    I see him as the equivalent of Noel thingy (can't remember his name offhand) both looking after their own interests.

    Why the fup I should be lining these geezers pockets I'd like to know😕🥴



  • Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭ Veda Gray Toddler


    The capacity issues were solved with modernisation / digitalisation of the network under TÉ in the 80s, but the prices were nuts in the 1990s and the privatised company had a de facto monopoly on access networks, at least until cable modems became widespread in urban areas, which still left a lot of people at the mercy of a private monopoly outside of those fairly narrow cable footprints.

    The current configuration of the market is far healthier, and there is strong competition, which is why we've got rapidly improving FTTH broadband and the prices are generally a lot more reasonable.

    However, it's a tangent to the main thread.

    My only point is that TÉ is absolutely not a good model for broadcasting infrastructure.

    I'd prefer to see 2RN, the networks side of RTE, being completely removed from RTE's corporate structure, not just as a business unit. It should be a state owned enterprise / service like Gas Networks Ireland or Eirgrid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,944 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Nearly all of Dublin city within the canals doesn't have fibre or a firm date to get it either!

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,062 ✭✭✭political analyst


    My point is that it'll still exist, not whether or not should still exist. I remember hearing about Greece's national broadcaster being taken off the air during that country's economic crisis but it'll never get that bad for RTÉ, which is engrained in Ireland's cultural identity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I don't see why anyone would give Larry Bass the time of day when it comes to his opinion on the license fee. He's hardly an impartial observer, with his production company churning lowest common denominator dirge that doesn't fit any kind of PSB remit, yet facilitated by the fee. Say Yes to the Dress, Celebrity Home of The Year, and Dancing with the Stars, among many other productions are all we could have done without.

    Someone that has suckled that successfully on the teat of the license fee needs to be upfront about how much they've made from it before they open their mouth.



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