Deposit return scheme (recycling)

If they continue to burn when it costs them per item they are beyond help.

I guess the LA employee is not working in the environmental department 🙂

Just thinking out loud... I don't think an empty cardboard box of bottled beers would do it - slots would be too narrow?

Too narrow if its 330ml bottles, never seen them for 500ml bottles. Usually super thin cardboard too

A delivery box of beer cans would work - usually split to 24 segments - but I'd doubt most people get cans by post.

Been talking to a craft beer producer about this, and a couple of points to note.

There is the obvious increased admin, and producer fee, which isn't great for businesses with small margins.

It was also pointed out that the deposit must be charged on all purchases, even if they are being sent outside the state. I live in Derry, and regularly buy beer from online retailers in the Republic. A quick check shows that whatever saving I make from buying direct from a brewery in the Republic over a shop in Derry/online in the north is wiped out. For one brewery, it's actually cheaper to buy online from Britain than direct. I accept that it's a small part of the market, but the state will lose out on the excise and VAT from my purchases (leaving aside the absurdity of the beer being sent from Ireland to Britain to Ireland). Seems silly not to have an exemption for packaging leaving the state.

or how tight people are to even do this

don't do it then simples

Seems to be shooting oneself in the foot from the Schemes perspective as these exported items are unlikely to ever see the Scheme's RVMs

So will this only serve to make the only game in town 90% target more difficult to achieve?

If and when NI introduce a refund scheme I expect the cans will have to be compliant with it.

You are a retail customer buying from a different jurisdiction so it is a bit of a grey area for now.

I think that brewery wouldn't have to pay the deposit on cans sold wholesale to NI but I could be wrong.

Maybe someone will be able to clarify.

Another poorly thought out system.. Beats me why we cant squash the containers and bring to a suitable recycling centre to weigh in and get a refund.. They now expect you to keep all your aluminium cans , and plastic bottles in pristine condition after you pack up your picnic at the beach, and keep them safe in the rear of a warm car with the bags of dog poop they also expect you to keep snug all day.

A deposit , indicates you do not own the container. same was as you pay a deposit to the bottle gas company, you get a refund on the deposit when you return the empty gas cylinder..

You buy these drink containers already and now they want to charge extra for each individual container , knowing fine rightly there is little success of them returning to store /refund machine in perfect condition..

What happens to the slightly dented container that is rejected by the machine? Does the machine return it, so you have to take it back home again after nursing it for however long, keep it, or spits it into a non recycling bin? Does the machine keep the container anyways, but not give your refund? a win for the machine operator for a free container..

Why would it have? It is a deposit scheme where you pay and get the money back and no advantage to the retailer on sales.

People are just looking for reasons to complain

No you felt the need to point out the bleeding obvious so yes you did imply it should count

Pretty sure it was a genuine FYI post. Customers will get into the swing of it soon enough. However if you think everyone will be aware that the deposit amount doesnt count towards shop and save offers you must shop in areas with no OAPs.

Jaysus. Have they ever heard of the word "dioxin" ?

That could lead to a very nasty chimney fire.

You should get onto Dunnes and tell them by stating this they are making a complaint about the scheme.

All I did was post this information onto the thread.

Please note, your Re-Turn deposit cannot be used to reach the spend threshold of our €10 off €50 and €5 off €25 vouchers.

https://www.dunnesstoresgrocery.com/sm/delivery/rsid/258/drs