Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

We could soon be accused of being an antisemitic country too.

(CNN) Pressure mounting on Netanyahu =

And in Israel, Netanyahu faces domestic opposition: More than 40 senior former Israeli national security officials, celebrated scientists and prominent business leaders have sent a letter to Israel’s president and speaker of parliament demanding that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu be removed from office for posing what they say is an “existential” threat to the country. They say Netanyahu is responsible for “creating the circumstances” that led to the massacre in Israel on October 7. “The victim’s blood is on Netanyahu’s hands,” the letter reads. It comes as other political figures have also called for fresh elections, saying the public has no trust in its government.

See that’s a different argument than saying it didn’t justify self defence. At least your revised position is arguable. What you said above was not. Glad you have caught on now.

Is it not obvious that the more Israel try and crush a Palestinian insurgence (as they see it) the more they are actually turning Palestinians against them along with moderates around the world.

I mean it’s fairly obvious no?

Incredibly obvious, we've been saying that even here from the very start.

And of course the reason it's so obvious is because that's what their government want, no real peace, just further excuses/cover to continue their ethnic cleansing and settling of the West Bank

Eh no, I don't think you actually read the ruling. Don't be fooled by the spin being put on this ruling by pro-Palestinian media.

What the court said was ""At least some of the acts and omissions alleged by South Africa to have been committed by Israel in Gaza appear to be capable of falling within the provisions of the (Genocide) Convention,". Key words in that sentence from a legal point of view are "alleged" thereby not proven, and "appear to be capable of", which again is less than what you think it is. Certainly, the ICJ did not

Go back to what I have said all along:

(1) The hostages taken on October 7th must be immediately released because that is a war crime - The ICJ ruled that they must be released immediately and unconditionally. I was correct on that point. Incidentally, the ICJ made no mention of Palestinian prisoners in Israel, despite the numerous posts on here claiming they were the same. So pretty much I was correct again about that being a red herring.

(2) Israel has a right to defend itself against the October 7th terrorist attack and is entitled to enter Gaza to do so - By not ordering a ceasefire, the ICJ have confirmed this to be the case. Once again, I was correct under international law.

(3) There is no proof that Israel has committed war crimes or genocide given the nature of its self-defence - This is a direct quote from the court ruling: "The court does not have the evidence to decide whether or not Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, but directs Israel to comply with its obligations under the Genocide Convention—to which Israel, as a party to the Genocide Convention since 1950, has long committed itself." Once again, in pointing out that Israel's acts would need investigation and that there are doubts that they broke international law (unlike the clear and unequivocal evidence that Hamas broke international law), and that it would take a long time to determine this under international law, I was also correct.

Now, remember, I haven't posted on this since before Christmas, I was fed up with the constant lies and clearly anti-semitic posts which didn't understand international law, and remember, I also said that I wasn't expressing support for what Israel was doing (despite attempts to label me as such).

Finally, the ICJ is a court under the United Nations. Today, the United Nations is facing a crisis, as it appears that one of its agencies was complicit in the committal of terrorist actions. If anything poses a challenge to international law, it is that the self-proclaimed arbiter of international law took part in illegal terrorist actions.

Don't bother replying as I won't be engaging with the nonsense on this thread, just here to point out that I was correct in what I said about international law all along.

I think it was obvious they just have evacuated civilians from Gaza before bombing the place, it would had taken time but at the moment sure they can kill militants with bombs but only at the cost of killing a lot of innocents. They probably just count every male killed of military age as a militant.

Why not find a graphic of the two flags side by side if thats what you want your signature to demonstrate? There's no coexistence in a map with just one flag.

And to answer your later question no its not ok when Netanyahu/Likud use it (or a version of) either.

You claim that your signature calls for a two-state solution, but it clearly does not. In both word and the shape of the flag, no reasonable person could look at that and come to any conclusion other than it's a call to destroy Israel in its entirety.

As to Likud having a similar policy about Israeli sovereignty, I'm not a shill for Likud and I care little whether Israel has a "left" or "right" wing government. But it's funny that you defend your genocidal call to eliminate Israel by pointing fingers at the very people you're trying to wipe out.

Ultimately the question is whether Israel (being about 1% of the Middle East and leaving the other 99+% for Arabs, Persians etc) should exist at all. Your sig makes it clear that you are with Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis etc.

It turns out that there was some basis for the Israelis’ claim that the UN is institutionally anti semetic after all

Different question: I haven't tried to defend that at all. FYI I'm not an admirer of Netanyahu or Likud, and have said before that IMO Netanyahu should be in prison.

But my question was about YOUR sig, not about Netanyahu: if you are for coexistence of both Israel and Palestine, as you claim, then why does your sig show the flag of Palestine alone over the whole area? Where is Israel in that?