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Another unknown saboteur or just coincidence?

https://news.err.ee/1609234275/estlink-2-estonia-finland-electricity-cable-suffers-outage

I see posts here based from media sources that compliment or are negative about one side or the other that I give more or less credibility to based on my own judgement, but if a claim is particularly specific and no source or a very dodgy looking media source is given, or a source is given that looks to be completely misinterpreted, as the reason for the claim then I see no harm asking if the original poster has any better source to give credibility to what are their claims. If they reply and say they have nothing else to prove or disprove their claims that is fair enough but to persistently ignore anyone who asks for something to explain claims that are labeled as confirmed or other phrases to give them credibility is just rude in my opinion and characterises that poster as someone who should simply be ignored in future as I have done in the case of one particular regular poster on this thread at times before.

We want Proof, we want peer-reviewed cited, multi agency investigatied evidence all the while posting tweets and legging it for 6 months and coming back with the same we demand evidence, same accounts others Just new accounts same people,

But yet there posts and evidence is tweets that cannot be questioned ever .......

It's a war Russians are dying and Ukrainians are dying in the hundreds of thousands, random boardies we want evidence evidence of the exact numbers of the numbers dead or it's false information knowing that Ukraine doesn't release its figures but they are dying in their tens of thousands,

@Paddigol I'd say the majority of his posts are pro-Ukrainian

The multiples of thousands of my posts are all pro Ukraine going back over a decade not a few posts here and there on a thread every few weeks/months

Taking a leaf out of the IRA and Hollywood playlist,

And They could easily increase the size of the car to carry bigger and more powerful munitions

Another report from Adiivka claiming the tunneling moskovytes were not as effective at breaking the defensive lines of the armed forces of Ukraine as some have said:

"The Russian tunnelers according to the TV report surfaced well short of Ukrainian fortifications, which were intact..."

What is the real situation in the Russian economy now? I see a lot of news talking about collapse and the Ruble imploding. But is that actually the reality? Hard to get genuine news on things because western media obviously wants to talk up ideas of collapse. To be clear I hope it's true but I've been hearing of Russia's economic collapse for over a year and it hasn't happened yet.

Why would I define that when I did not say anything about success?

Read the article I posted. It makes a much more reasonable description of what might have happened than anything I have seen from yourself on the news of a tunnel being used in the area.

And yet the article said that the lines were breached,the mayor of adviika said the lines were breached, the only difference between yesterdays post this one , the other there was casualties and this article has zero Mention of any casualties whatsoever ,,

Enemy breached defences undetected there was casualties

That was a suggestion in theory it might work,

Here is a copy of a post you made about this tunnel recently:

"Imagine if they did send 500 through the tunnels ,100-150 eliminated 500 killed or injured now multiply that number several times over with a larger force running amok inside Ukrainian lines , what ever the plan for the Russians was it seem to have worked they breached the Ukrainian lines and have gained another foothold inside of adviika"

Zero evidence for the hundred plus of eliminated and five hundreds injured now as you claim and a suggestion that it was feasible to send hundreds of putin's troops through a sewer to give them *another foothold inside..."

If you read the article as I suggested the statement from the mayor was quoted as saying "the maximum that it could be is some kind of recon group. And no more,” They mention that the moskovytes that did infiltrate the lines have been counter attacked by Ukrainian forces and positions retaken and moskovyte units were still being hunted down in a forest park area. The infiltrating troops have been detected and while I never said there were no casualties you seem to be the only one putting an exact figure on them and providing no evidence for the figures you seem to be grasping out of some pro putin bloggers back side.

I think Ukrainian sources have rolled back on the idea it flew from Iran seems like a social media account tried to make two separate aircraft into the one that was shot down to fit the narrative,

Putin himself has doubled down on the claim something he's not really done for previous shoot downs ,

It's a bit of an odd one because both sides have come out with multiple claims and counter claims

Has anyone air accident investigation requested access to the site ???

Ukraine could have done it at the UN the other day no ??