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General Rugby Discussion 3

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  • #2912
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635540#Comment_121635540

    Absolutely - Goal-Kicker/Punter is probably the only genuine pathway for someone coming to the NFL late from Rugby/AFL/GAA etc.

    Directly transferable skills and limited requirement to master all the other elements of the sport.



  • #2913
    ionadnapóca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,230 ✭✭✭ionadnapóca


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121632887#Comment_121632887

    Only surprise about his appointment is that its only a 2 year contract.

    This time last year they stupidly sacked Rennie and gave Jones a 4 year contract.


    Real change cant be implemented in 2 years.



  • #2914
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,207 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121638448#Comment_121638448

    possibly a result of RA recognising they were burnt with Jones. Id imagine if there is any consolidation of results, or progress with pathways, they will extend Joes tenure.

    It may also be possible that Joe could be looking to return to teh ABs for the run in for RWC 27



  • #2915
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,348 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    He has been officially confirmed now, head coach on two year contract.

    Its an impossible task though, fair play to him to take it on but it will really be an uphill struggle from where they are starting.

    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/schmidt-calls-for-patience-with-wallabies-rebuild-2024119



  • #2916
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    2 year contract is short, but I guess they feel burned by prior appointments.

    Thought this was interesting

    "(With Ireland) we didn't select anyone who wasn't contracted in Ireland," Schmidt said.

    "There was nothing really stopping overseas selections in Ireland, but I know because they're so close to Europe, that would have been really detrimental to the Irish domestic competition

    "So it's another one of those questions where I just want to find out a little bit more of what it looks like.

    "It would be great if we can select almost entirely from Australia, rather than chase guys from overseas." 



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  • #2917
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,207 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I see Jaco Peyper is retiring

    https://www.ultimaterugby.com/news/high-praise-for-retiring-referee-jaco-peyper/654265


    always found him a bit meh to be honest.



  • #2918
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,467 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Never liked his style or occasionally wild inconsistency.



  • #2919
    ersatz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ersatz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637683#Comment_121637683

    WR is a possibility, The Raiders tried to convert Ronaldo Nehemiah, who is the Olympic gold medalist 400m hurdler from Cuba and there have been other attempts to take track athletes and turn them into wide receivers, assuming they’ve got elite speed and hands. The other obvious one is kick returns.



  • #2920
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,121 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639595#Comment_121639595

    Thank ****. Atrocious ref, absolute menace to the sport.



  • #2921
    leakyboots
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,331 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121640867#Comment_121640867

    In my opinion you're a bit too on the fence on this one, can you tell us what you really feel?



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  • #2922
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    What is a kick returner when it's at home?

    I've only ever seen lads kick conversions after touchdowns.



  • #2923
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121642395#Comment_121642395

    At any restart, one team kicks to the other, or attempts to reclaim it from their own kick off.

    A kick returner is someone that catches the ball, and attempts to run it up the field.



  • #2924
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,348 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Just like in rugby union - the kick off is one of one the few parts of both sports that mirror each other directly, and where the US sport really shows its rugby origins. Of course, American football’s played on a much smaller field, so a lot of kicks aren’t actually returned at all - the ball might go out beyond the end (dead ball) line, resulting in what’s known as a touchback, or the receiving team might call a fair catch (mark).

    Punt returner is rarely a dedicated position though, and often played by someone who normally plays on offence as a wide receiver (a similar position to winger in some respects) or running back (roughly fullback).



  • #2925
    bingobango12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121642521#Comment_121642521

    Will watch playoffs and the Super Bowl but never have a clue what’s going on at the kick offs. Couldn’t figure out why some are returned and why sometimes they are left to bounce and the players all surround and stare at the ball on the ground.



  • #2926
    Roy Enough Twit
    Posts: 1,345 ✭ Roy Enough Twit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121642663#Comment_121642663

    They’ll do this if the kick has landed inside certain areas.

    For the kicking team, they basically want to get the ball to land as close to the opposition goal line without crossing it. In those scenarios, the returning team will rarely chance picking it up and it will be deemed ‘down’ where it is.

    If the kicking team kick it too far into or through the back of the end zone (deemed a ‘touchback’) then the play will automatically restart out on the 25 yard line.



  • #2927
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,207 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629781#Comment_121629781

    just heard the eggchasers boys say that Roots is welsh qualified, so maybe im not going completely mad. There must be some connection somewhere



  • #2928
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Anyone started watching Full Contact on Netflix?



  • #2929
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I watched the first two. Not really compelling viewing so far but maybe interesting for new fans of the sport. It's basically two featured players per episode. Russell, Genge, Smith and Negri and I guess Porter is in the next one.



  • #2930
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Finn Russells head is so far up his own arse


    Porter comes across brilliantly.



  • #2931
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Fickou is incredibly likeable



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  • #2932
    clsmooth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Watched the first four. Porter has indeed come across very well as has Genge. Two players who would polarise opposition fans, due to their combative nature, I think it’s fair to say. Lots of depth from the two. Russell a little less so. Comes across (to me) as a bit childish for a 30 year old.



  • #2933
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Gregor Townsend fills the Scottish players heads full of so much crap


    His main coaching point is "we will win because we are fitter than them", then they lose



  • #2934
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Owen Farrell comes across very well too



  • #2935
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Im nine minutes into episode 1 and one thing is clear.

    Scotland will never win anything with Finn Russell.

    Hes got the maturity of a giddy nine year old, all he wants is to pull off one or two flashy tricks in a game completley secondary to their gameplan and to him the winning or losing of the game is irrelevant. Its the Finn Russell show not a team.


    Long may it continue



  • #2936
    All_in_Flynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Was always going to be aimed at the general sports fan rather than the rugby lovers but would have liked to have seen a bit more depth to it. Feels a little bit rushed.

    I'm also surprised they didn't at the very start give a beginners guide to the main rules.

    It's obviously only a snippet but the Irish training camps look like they are miles ahead of Scotland, Wales etc.



  • #2937
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121667845#Comment_121667845

    Isnt it better to some extent its aimed at general sports fan more in hope it will attract then to rugby more?

    Background to the laws in what way at the beginning?



  • #2938
    Strand1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Strand1970


    Genge came across really well. I know feck all about players outside of Ireland. Really interesting to get a bit of their backgrounds. I can see this growing over a few seasons if it continues. Might take a while for teams to be more comfortable having cameras around and learning what boundaries to relaxed.



  • #2939
    ersatz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Agree that it just reinforces the worst suspicions about Russel and to a lesser extent Townsend. Italy’s coaching crew beyond Crowley also pretty thin. I fast forwarded a lot. Genge, Porter and Farrell are box office, potentially.



  • #2940
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121667845#Comment_121667845

    Hard to tell about the quality of the training camps but Townsend fills the Scottish players heads full of so much delusional stuff.

    Your fitter then Ireland, You will smash them in the scrum, in the maul, in contact. They were crap and they lost.

    He told them the same crap against France and they lost.

    He also told them if they perform to their best, they can beat anyone. Yet to get that performance from them though.


    The Negri life story was excellent. And the end with Sexton and his son was fantastic. The world isn't ready for the Johnny and Luca secret handshake.



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  • #2941
    RichieRich_89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121640773#Comment_121640773

    You mean someone else? Nehemiah is American, not Cuban, and did the 110m hurdles. He played a bit of American football.



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