The new recycling system

This new recycling thing with the bottles and cans is absolutely bonkers.

First of all I recycle all and I mean all my plastic bottles, food cans, drinks cans, shampoo bottles etc. Everything I can recycle I do.

I don't use that many, but feck that I'm meant to now find another place at home to gather all these until I have enough when I have a perfectly useable bin for all this stuff already!

Then the one thing that might actually be useful for us as consumers, a glass bottle bank because not that many of them, oh no we don't want those!

If they really actually cared about the environment well I'd appreciate a weekly collection of my recycle bin.

Now that would make a difference, we recycle so much my husband usually has to get into the bin to squeeze on stuff near the collection date.

You have a bit of an alternative view of reality don't you?

Not really, i just see what others fail to see. i'm less focused some parts of the scheme and more focused on how they're trying to conn people or trick them into doing free work, or how can i profit from the scheme since they refuse to reward people for giving them cans, bottles, etc. i'm trying to make the best of this scheme.

i'm not caught up on defending the scheme with my life like others are doing, and at the end of the day if anyone promotes or insults the scheme i don't mind either way as its not really my fight. No point beings a jobsworth especially if getting nothing in return from the scheme. Statistics don't matter as paper never refused ink. What matters is making use of the scheme somehow in your favor and benefitting from it. as the whole recycling lark and logic they give contradict eachother with their own actions or lack of, so theres no point taking the madness seriously or trying to figure out who said what in what radio interview as people can be biased and lie to protect who they represent all the time.

Buisnuess 101, press conference and good public image for public relations and getting everyone on board like its some good thing. they're already lucky enough people are recycling and doing their part without this scheme. However its not enough for the green greed machine and they just want more, and higher numbers. their solution = force people into it and punish those who don't partake in their scheme by holding/keeping their deposit. They win either way, so only winning move is not to play. And a nice extortion deposit tax on those who already recycle at home and wish to continue doing so without going to these machines. ALL BUISNUESS and not actual care for environment. its just entirely greed motivated. pandering for profit.

it will become much more inconvenient for sure, thats a guarantee! its bullying to partake in the scheme at this point, well coercion. Recyclable cans and bottles having their deposits held as ransom, we're forced to feed the machine our recycleables or else lose the ransom if we don't.

Well stop with the condescending tone so.

You are doing great and it will only get a bit more inconvenient. -sic

Give me a break. 🙄

Complete chilled, don't treat other people like complete mugs.

That's the job of the CEO and Communications Officer.

They are getting paid for it, you aren't.

If the public have any sense, they will flood Return with calls when this starts up and ask them to arrange for collection of these tins and bottles.

"Hi Ciaran - I used to put these in my bin that was collected but that's no good to you - please pick them up for me like a good lad. I can't get 20 miles to nearest of your machines."

The CEO says they'll sort matters out, so let them. It's their bleedin scheme.

i'm not caught up on defending the scheme with my life like others are doing,

You seem happy to get caught up attacking it with spurious lies though... Curious

i'm not attacking the scheme with lies, i'm pointing out that we break even at best and don't really benefit from it, while they benefit both ways and are wanting free help with reaching their goal from the public while offering essentially nothing in return.

Either way that's twice now i gave you many words, only to receive so little in return.

We will benefit from more recycling being done, will we not?

True but if you take quality over quantity of words I'm ahead of you

I've yet to see a single machine and apparently they are quite large. Of course these can be put in the bin, but CEO Ciaran advised the public yesterday that they want them in the RVM machines. And he advised the public to phone his office if they have trouble bringing them to one of his machines.

Well the public should take him up on that. Here's our cans & bottles - come get them.

He never said they'd arrange collection iirc, he sort of fudged the answer.

But re-turn won't collect them from you, if you want to recycle them with re-turn you have to bring them with you to an RVM the next time you go shopping. Your bin service is what will collect them from you

So you haven't seen an RVM yet but you know that where you live your nearest return machine will be 20 miles (31km) away? How did you come to that conclusion exactly?

Perhaps you could divulge the location and the very helpful people here can point out an RVM less than 20 miles away?

I've read back about 6 pages and haven't come across this query yet, I've seen one or two of the machines, they aren't particularly large, i've a teen son working in a very large supermarket here in Limerick, I might find where they have installed the machines, do the machines compact and reduce the size of the returned bottles? Is it true the bottle must be returned intact, no deformity or damage whatsoever to the bottle?

the reason for the question is manpower, in my sons busy supermarket is there a potential to have a return machine filled and out of action quickly, how happy are the supermarkets going to be when they realise the labour and manpower to keep these operational, don't get me wrong I'm in favour of some kind of scheme but I just cant get my head around if this is going to succeed.

I reckon a busy store could need one or two staff nearly dedicated to emptying and ensuring its functional, and they will also require another skip or container to store said returns securely to prevent theft while awaiting bulk collection

Grew up in canada as kid in the 70's best thing was attending big BBQ's or parties where empty beer bottles where collected and returned for money

done bit differently there as the beer is bought and sold thru government owned outlets, one track in for returns, order pay and use credit was all very seemless