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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Donald Trump is 77 years old. It's a normal part of the aging process to have language issues from time to time. I wouldn't resort to making jokes about Trump (or Biden) because of it. That's just me though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Trump's MAGA attack dogs in the media and social media seize gleefully any time Biden has a moment, whether age related, stammer related, or just politician speaking so much eventually they are bound to trip over the words. They are trying to spin this into a campaign that Biden has cognitive issues from this and is not fit to be President.

    It is therefore valid to point out all the times Trump makes a similar screw up, how hypocritical it makes those attacks; and how the attacks on Biden may well be projection to defend Trump who they can see declining.

    What speech has Trump given since leaving office or as President to rank with Biden's perfomances in Ireland last year?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,699 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Forgetting how many world wars there were or suggesting people inject bleach is not part of the ageing process.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭randd1


    It doesn't matter to the MAGA heads, which seems to be the majority of Republicans.

    Trump could do take a 5hit on the floor, take out chopsticks, pick it up, eat it, puke the faeces in liquid form into a bucket, pi55 into it, milk the (apparently non-functioning) mushroom into it, and then throw the disgusting mess of bodily expulsions out into the crowd and all he would have to do is shout "Marxist liberal democrats want this for our country" and they'd cheer him to the rooftops and give him even more money. And the only criticism they'd give towards him for it is that he should have used a fork instead of chopsticks.

    They're a cult. You can even see it on this thread, it's not about what he represents, he's their Jesus to them because he validates their feelings an makes them feel all warm and cuddly. Denial and denial after denial of basic fact, and utter devotion to the dear leader.

    Trump has lost his mind, mostly as a result of age and a concoction of uppers to keep him going.

    The man could munch on a live baby at one of his rallys, it simply doesn't matter. Trump is their Jesus/God/Pope now, therefore infallible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Guantanama Bay is still open or perhaps see if he can last a week in his old mate's, Jeffrey's cell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,608 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I am the same age as Donald Trump, so don't lecture me about the joys of the aging process. I am not putting myself forward as President of the United States though, or any other role that requires an ability to articulate ideas or talk intelligably to world leaders. And I am not making jokes, I am deadly serious.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    There is also the fact that GOP mouthpieces will twist themselves into extreme contortions rather than admit a moment of error/weakness on the part of their god-King.

    See Elise Stefanik (someone who Trump hasn't even bothered to learn how to say her name properly) utterly debase herself trying to defend when Trump said that Nikki Haley was in charge on security on January 6th when the lie he was trying to make was that Nancy Pelosi was in charge of security (She wasn't as has been proven over and over again).

    According to her, he MEANT to say that as a way of showing how "in the pocket of the Democrats" Nikki Haley is.

    That's pathetic , nothing more nothing less.

    We can argue about whether what Trump said was just a "flub" because he's under pressure and tired etc. or whether it's a sign of a more serious cognitive issue but what we can all say with absolute certainty was that he made a mistake and he didn't "mean to say it like that".



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That's a grossly reductive insult to septuagenarians such that I'd wonder if you actually know any? Best not Google what age David Attenborough is though by way of example; or indeed Bernie Sanders if we wanna keep things related to US Politics; not if you think hitting 70 flips some switch that renders basic articulation and coherence null and void. I've listened to @looksee 's embedded Tweet a few times and I still have no idea what he's talking about; context might be a bit lost but eve accounting for that Trump's comments are just rambling nonsense - and not the result of simple ageing.

    Don't try and shut down debate about the ... well, cognitive decline of a candidate with some affected concern for Trump's health; it's pretty pertinent, especially when it's pretty easily shown how a formerly coherent, relatively lucid individual is now babbling like he has lost his mind. See, here you go: he was never especially intellectual but he spoke calmly and with no demonstrable inability to express himself or put two thoughts together..




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,240 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    She is reading a speech prepared for her by her team of speechwriters, thats not a test of verbal ability.

    A wordsmith she is not.

    Even the great Orator himself Barack Obama only had a small hand in his speeches




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Oh look, any chance to take a dig at Democrats from the poster who pretends not to be a partisan rapist defender. And when have you ever jumped in to comment on the drivel coming out of Trump?

    It is a test of verbal ability that she can deliver the speech, a test Trump is regular failing. Trump simply wouldn't be able to deliver a speech like that. He can't even deliver a soundbite anymore without embarrassing himself.

    So is Trump a wordsmith then? Or is the drivel coming out of his mouth all his own?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Trump has always "rambled" quite a bit in his speeches , tending to go off on tangents quite regularly, but they would be mostly coherent (or at least a contiguous thought) and he would get to a point of sorts - not the point he started out to make , but a "point" none the less.

    But what we are seeing lately appears quite different - The tangents are still there , but there are no contiguous thoughts and he never gets anywhere , he just trails off before picking up a new and unrelated thread to tug on for a while before his mind wanders again.

    It could be just the unrelenting pressure he is under (all entirely self-inflicted mind you) rather than an actual underlying medical issue , but something is making him behave the way he is , and it's behaviour that is not normal or indeed acceptable for someone seeking the highest office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,240 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Don't try and shut down debate about the ... well, cognitive decline of a candidate with some affected concern for Trump's health; it's pretty pertinent, especially when it's pretty easily shown how a formerly coherent, relatively lucid individual is now babbling like he has lost his mind. See, here you go: he was never especially intellectual but he spoke calmly and with no demonstrable inability to express himself or put two thoughts together..

    The irony of this statement.

    That clip is 25 years old.

    What about the visible cognitive decline of Biden, any mention of that on the Biden thread is taboo.

    Both candidates are sadly shadows of the men they were, its no fun getting old.

    That clip of Trump is interesting, he is quite humble in it, and honest.

    I guess that was Trump the man as opposed to Trump the persona, the one he adopted to enter politics.

    I'd much prefer to see that original side of Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,699 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    That's the point. Trump 25 years ago could at least construct basic sentences. Now, he can barely say his own name.

    Can you really do no better than the both sides crap? Really?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump supporters suddenly become so sensitive to the tragedy of senile dementia when the suggestion is made about their man.

    As Bill Burr (whose wife, Nia, recently gave Trump the finger at a UFC event) said, "If you're doin' it too, quit your cryin'. Quit your cryin'"




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    How many times have I posted in the Biden thread? I'm not interested in a whatabout segue about what goes on elsewhere in corners I don't particupate in, or whatever you class as irony.

    I do indeed think Biden is too old - but I don't think he's in cognitive decline. I think Trump is also too old - and in increasingly self-evident cognitive decline ala Mitch McConnell; there's the difference for you to chew on. What galls though is that the Biden "he's senile" has been seen as a legitimate attack point by some, yet once the table turns witness the Sealion defence of "how very dare you"? Therein lies the irony.

    And farts are funny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,699 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,240 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Oh look, another scurrilous dig at Biden and yet no similar digs at Trump. You're making your partisan defence of the rapist ever more obvious now.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,964 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Once again you seem to have a lot of affection for Trump in spite of the fact he's a rapist. Referring to him as "humble", no less. Let's just remember the clip was around that same point where he raped Carroll.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,699 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There's a reason for that.

    Any time the rapist is criticised, the Trumpsters immediately play the both sides and whataboutery cards. It's rather tedious, frankly.

    I've stopped touching that thread.

    As for Biden, I'd say there's been a bit of decline. There usually is with ageing but I'm no expert. The difference is that Biden seems to enjoy reading and exercise so he naturally looks better. Trump on the other hand believes in the human battery theory and is perpetually stuffing himself with takeaways and diet coke.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,890 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    She's a centrist don't you know, despite taking every opportunity to defend trump and criticise Biden



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yes, dead give away from Trump defenders that they never miss an opportunity to defend Trump, attack Democrats, and the most that will ever be dragged out of them anyway negative to Trump is a grudging both sides or whataboutery. Final proof they are pro Trump disproving any claims to the contrary.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,545 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Ah c'mon, we get them as quick as we can but give me 30 seconds at least before you dive in and start feeding them 🤣🤣🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Trump has been struggling for a while now, there seems to be semi regular gaffes.

    I assume he’s going to be heavily stage managed - most of what he says will be through Twitter being written by someone else, and a debate will be out of the question.

    On a side note I find it bizarre that someone running for president can just nope out of events like these - these are supposed to be beneficial to the American public and can inform their vote, it should be a requirement of running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,890 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "can inform their vote"

    To be fair, whoever is voting for Trump at this stage knows exactly what they are signing up for...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Oh sure, Trump supporters wouldn’t be influenced at all, but anyone else who’s on the fence, typically republican but unsure about Trump or people who think Biden is to old and doddery etc

    The candidate should be required to stand up, explain why he’s better than the opposition on a wide variety of topics and challenge the opposition on his policies, all in a live environment. But Trump won’t do it because he’s well aware(or his team are at least) that any public appearance that they don’t have near total control over will be bad for his chances.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It will be interesting to see what the turn-out is like in New Hampshire today for the GOP Caucus.

    The Iowa turn-out was shockingly bad , but the bad weather likely played a decent sized role in that.

    Only 15% of registered Republicans turned up to vote which is less than half of the typically already poor turnout.

    There just seems to be much lower levels of enthusiasm for Trump this time out. I mean the MAGA loons are still there , but it just seems like the rest of the GOP voter base is kinda bored with him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,952 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    If it's a repeat of the 2020 candidates, it's probably going to be one of the least energetic campaigns of recent times.



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