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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,103 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    The Senate and House reward long-term pols; committee chairs, seats on plum committees. And with that, comes all those good lobbyist dollars, jobs for relatives, etc. Term limits seem like a good idea.

    In Ireland it runs differently and committee chairs seem to come and go as needed, it's the ministries that matter and they turn over with the government. A side-effect of PR-STV (or whatever the right term is for our elections.)

    Not to say that TD's don't get up to bad behaviour; I've 2 Healeys-Rae as TD's. They're great County Councillors, unfortunately that's not what they're elected to do.

    As for RBG, that's the arrogance of old people; she was asked about retiring under Obama and said, "Who would they get that would be better." Well, we got Amy Coney-Barrett. Satisfied? It's why reelecting Biden is so critical, I can really see Thomas and Alito not lasting another 4 years they're both pretty old and finally under some pressure.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The community note is rather beautiful though, might at least help a tad when the shítstorm of fake news ramps up during the 2024 campaign. Just not convinced Trump has the same open runway he had in 2016 this time; the political world is a little wiser to tactics, falsehoods and Trump's empty bravado.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Dear god the side eye Trump's giving her. Trying not to be cynical but failing. No wonder Melania is telling him to ride in the other car if he's hanging around with her clone in the courts all day .

    The Senate and House reward long-term pols; committee chairs, seats on plum committees. And with that, comes all those good lobbyist dollars, jobs for relatives, etc. Term limits seem like a good idea.

    In Ireland it runs differently and committee chairs seem to come and go as needed, it's the ministries that matter and they turn over with the government. A side-effect of PR-STV (or whatever the right term is for our elections.)

    Ah yes forgot about those committees and free rides that net you sweet dollars for bending the ear to lobby groups. Truly American democracy was broken before Trump came along and decided to start pulling at the tape holding it all up.

    Maybe that's the real "tragedy" of Trump: an ideologue who genuinely wanted to "drain the swamp" through sheer force of will could have been a fantastic source of good for shaking up and sanitising democracy over there. There is a swamp, it needs draining but it needed cunning and subtly of assassination.

    Instead Trump WAS the swamp incarnate; a mutated creature of it and the old money establishment he claimed to fight - clothed in antagonistic populism to fool an undereducated voting base he was on their side. He didn't want to drain the swamp, he just wanted revenge on the Obama types who laughed at Trump, while getting some of that swamp money and protection for himself in the wake of his post 2008 troubles. While the burgeoning Christian conservative & authoritarian wing of the GOP saw a Useful Idiot to further their agenda of their Project 2025 vision for Gilead in all but name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Carlito Brigantes Tale


    Panic setting now from a lot of liberal media types that he's getting in again. The slow realisation the court actions against him have made him more popular is hitting home now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭swampgas


    That's a rather hysterical and emotional take on events though, isn't it? Did you forget to use BLOCK CAPITALS in your post?

    "Panic", "hitting home" - hah! The only one with a strong emotional reaction here is you, as you're so happy to be able to stick it to the libs :)

    Paid shill or not, you're rather predictable and boring. Can't you come up with anything more interesting to dribble on about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Even Democrats are fed up with Biden's America. Consider Sen. John Fetterman, D-Penn., and his comments on the border crisis.

    His comments to CNN's Jake Tapper 👇




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,814 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I mean he is cornering the rapist market, not many criminals can look at a presidential candidate and think yeah he is just like me!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Considering what a broad church the Democrat party has become, I'd be surprised if there wasn't disharmony among members - but don't think that'll translate to a rationale Trump being the better pick from those within the tent. A party that contains Nancy Pelosi and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez isn't exactly a single ideological beast. Heck Sanders has been right there all these years, doing his own thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,887 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    That's one democrat.

    You said democrats (plural).

    Where are the rest of them?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Trumps ex-wife is buried in an unmarked grave in his back yard, he doesn't even cut the grass around the grave never mind place flowers there.

    His current wife gets sick in her mouth every time he touches her, she clearly wants nothing to do with him and why would she? He cheated on her with a pornstar when she was pregnant, had golden showers from prostitutes in Russia, he raped other women, he has STD's and by all accounts smells of urine.

    And this is the candidate for the party of family values? For the GOP, who keep bleating on about going back to the 50's and living that wholesome American family life? How can they so easily disregard everything their party is supposed to be about and vote for a senile old man who wears a nappy?

    Is their racism so important that they ditch everything else that used to be important to them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭swampgas


    "Is their racism so important that they ditch everything else that used to be important to them?"

    Yes? In the sense that non-white, non-Christian people are perceived as an existential threat to many MAGA people. They have been persuaded by the Great Replacement Theory and genuinely feel that they are being "exterminated". There isn't much they won't stoop to with that mindset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,252 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Just to add to swampgas’ reply, I might suggest that the whole idealistic 50’s white, straight and Christian* America that the GOP types day-dream over is in itself a facade.

    (* and only certain flavours of Christianity)

    Despite trying to champion a lifestyle of pious Church-going and devotion to one’s spouse and/or family, you will likely find that many of them use much of that as a cloak for their indiscretions be them sexual or moral or financial. Many of them a selfish and single-minded and may only want to use their shield of apparent moral superiority to allow them to openly act in the own interests alone devoid of kindness or understanding of others.

    Trump added a new layer onto all of this, and I think it started as soon as he became the GOP candidate in 2016. Before, all of their vile behaviour had to be masked under language to make it look at least that they were respectful members of society on the surface. They had to use words like “family values” to mask a hatred of homosexuals for example. But when Trump became an actual option to be POTUS, it served as a giant permission slip to them to be as openly vile as they wished. *The President* could be as rule and petulant as he wanted…so why not the rest of us?

    I feel thar is a big reason why they still love him. He’s their permission slip to be themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,103 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    "non-Christian people"

    The VAST majority of those evil brown people diluting our blood or whatever from Mexico and points south, are Christians. It's just about colour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    He's an old man, it's bound to catch up with him at some stage. All these criminal cases and now running all over the country for his campaign. Imagine what MAGA would say if Biden made an error like this one. Trump would be sending out a fundraising email to his simpleton followers straight away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭swampgas


    And language, I suppose. It's pretty standard in-group/out-group stuff at its heart.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    That's what a functioning democratic organisation looks like.

    People are allowed to voice their opinions and say they are not happy.

    Contrast that with the current GOP and the insistence on absolute blind loyalty to their God-King. Any hint of independent thought result in ridicule and expulsion.

    Tell me again which party is the 'Threat to democracy' ???



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Point of pedantry: but Mexican would be broadly Catholic right? All those WASP or MAGA evangelicals wouldn't necessarily have much immediate grà for their siblings, being papists n all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Note that after Fettermans comments, Joe Biden did not fly into a rage and start insulting Fetterman publicly.

    Yet when anybody dares say something negative towards Trump he wets himself in anger, starts calling names and spitting out barely legible social media posts calling for that person to be targeted by the marching morons.

    One of those men is a grown up, the other is Donald Trump.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,103 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    You got my more subtle point. The Evangeliban in the US only has use for its individual form of religion, whatever that might be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    dunno why the ex lawyer gave an interview when he was like eh I cant tell you, personal reasons.

    But MSNBC probably paid him for the visit, to ask him why he left a client who famously stiffs his lawyers

    best he did was lose his composure for a wink and nudge when asked about his "unhinged" client. He seemed to have a lot of mental energy spent on keeping that grin in check



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Watched it yesterday, and I would say it's more an effort to save their own skin, control the narrative, and say there's nothing bad about his former client before the case is ultimately lost and their former client blames everyone but themselves for the loss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,103 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Shows one thing I've known about the US for a long time, no matter how much money you have, there are plenty of bad lawyers out there willing to take it. TFG has a knack for dredging up really bad ones, starting with Michael Cohen, but he's had some doozies, as well as a couple of o.k. ones. This Alina Habba is laughably bad, getting dressed down by the Judge on how to present evidence. And of course out-and-out lunatics like Rudy and the Kraken nutter.

    Habba went to something called Widener, which is ranked in the bottom 25% of law schools in the US. And it shows. Last Week in the Republican Party showed an interview clip where she answered "would you rather be smart, or prettty" with "Pretty!"


    Law schools in the US work the rankings, and in my experience a lot of them are ranked too highly. Never hire a lawyer outside the top 25% and top 10 if you can get one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Presumably nobody credible wants to touch his cases and take Trump on as a client, while his reputation of not paying fees also shrinking the pool of moral free opportunists. Does somewhat speak to the severity of his legal peril that he can't get anyone even vaguely competent to argue his case.

    Or else he's sabotaging his own chances in hiring lawyers he wants to bone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,240 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,103 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Yeah, the lawyers mentioned in that article absolutely are. The 65 Project seem admirable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,343 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    So they are facing the consequences of their actions? Or do you think lawyers should have absolute immunity now too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,252 ✭✭✭Rawr


    “Dark Democrat Money…” behind Trump’s legal woes.

    Then the thumbnail of the link shows Ms. Hugo Chavez Kraken Lady and the dimwit who had an unplanned cameo in the Borat sequel sitting beside her.

    Going out on a limb here by thinking that Trump’s lawyers simply have a knack being a little crap. (Both as being people and as *law talking guys*)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Nah mate, it's because they all get disbarred and sanctioned for bringing frivolous lawsuits



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