Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I am not debating any of that. I asked 2 posters whether all 100k Ukrainians should be sent home. One did not respond, the other said we need to identify the ones not affected by the war. I am trying to get further info on that.

You asked for an explanation as though I hadn’t provided one already.

You asked me did I still stand by my claim.

I wouldn’t have had to repeat myself if you hadn’t asked me to do so.

Now perhaps you could rebut the points made, because they’re based upon reality, whereas all you’ve got is your disgust at what you see is being done to your country, as if anyone outside of your own head should give a shiny shyte for how your country disgusts you 🙄

To tell you the truth I didn't read half the waffle, life's to short. Anyway anyone who seriously thinks immigrants are having no affect on services can't really be taken seriously.

If you don’t have documentation are you not returned on the next available flight back to where you came from?

should it also be the law you cannot claim international protection without a valid passport?

It's important that Ireland support the Ukrainian refugees as much as possible.

Ukrainians are the very definition of real asylum applicants as opposed to applications from people coming from safe countries.

These are the applications that should be scrutinized. Not the Ukrainians.

You’re obviously reading what’s written, let’s not play silly beggars. You don’t like what’s written, but that’s entirely your own business. The facts are that the provision of public services has never been based on anyone’s immigration status, and successive Irish Governments have been reluctant to invest in public services, preferring to privatise public services instead, which is why we are where we’re at now.

When it was instantiated 20 years ago, Direct Provision was already being criticised as an inadequate and ineffective means to provide support for people seeking asylum. Private interests took precedence over public interests, and we are where we’re at now.

Current circumstances didn’t develop overnight, it’s just you were never affected by them before. Other people were, and now you’re looking for their support when under normal circumstances you wouldn’t have looked twice at them when they needed your support. That’s why you’re not getting the support you need now.

For the last time Jack as I'm getting scunnered trying to explain.

Every person coming into the country is a strain on services. How can services ever catch up and be viable services when the population is being increased quicker than services can be rectified or put in place.

I could start putting out facts and figures about houses built and hospital beds, Gp places but I think I'm flogging a dead house with you.

Sorry Jack, maybe some day you will figure it out.

Ballaghaderreen is in Co. Roscommon, not Mayo. You are the only one confused.

If you dont even know that you're not gonna know the house estates there. But then, you're just trying to save face now. See below.

https://www.theremcollgroup.com/projects/river-oaks

Every person coming into the country is a strain on services.

This is where you’re fundamentally mistaken. Every person coming into the country isn’t a strain on services, they’re not putting a strain on services they don’t use, and they’re not putting any EXTRA strain, on services which are already fundamentally underfunded and poorly managed.

How can services ever catch up and be viable services when the population is being increased quicker than services can be rectified or put in place.

They can’t, and that’s a feature of public services, not a flaw. Public services will never be comparable on the same basis as privately provided services. It’s silly to expect that they could ever be comparable without significant investment, and that’s not going to happen because it would be political suicide for any Government or political party to even attempt to do it. It would require raising taxation levels to the levels they were at in the 80s when Charlie told bedtime stories about the Irish people already living beyond our means. He was another self-serving shyster.

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But when they work they are contributing the economy so they can't be described then as a loss to the exchequer

When they work, what about IF they don't work. Benefits????

Bit out of the loop today but I've just seen reported by the Examiner that the Government are considering buying a student housing complex in Cork City for use to house Asylum Seekers. 400 students are accommodated at the complex.

And when I thought that buying the hotel in Roscrea was peak stupidity... Looks like Government are turning it into a fine art form.

They will be politically slaughtered if this goes through.

Diversity isn't your strength. It lowers your wages, marginalises your culture ,increases your crime, fills your hospitals,occupies your housing, ruins your schools, consumes your taxes, tightens your laws,restricts your freedoms, endangers your children and calls you racist.