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Room to Improve (v2)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,752 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Was that not on top of a nice grant for lime render or some such

    Plus all the retrofit grants

    This government is obsessed at streaming tax revenue right into landowners hands. What clearly should be an urban policy is now full square aimed at FGs core voting pool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Someone mentioned it could do with another show like what they did for Big Brother or Love Island to provide the detail. That wouldn’t help answer any of the questions like how the builder from Buncrana ended up with the job (or would even have been interested in quoting for such a job) or the grants (how they qualified for some of them) or the QS from doing a favour to re-appearing later own in the show. I think we’d need another tribunal for that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    is the builder from buncrana or is he based there. i saw that his van had a donegal reg

    its about 4.5 hours from buncrana to urlingford. i went up near dundaulk to colect something over the chrismass and it cost me with an empty van 60 euro in deisil and 21.60 in tolls and that was 2.5 each way. no way its viable to do that to even oversee the job let alone do it.

    something isnt adding up here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,762 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There's loads of NI reg Skodas and vans parked outside most building sites in Dublin, with lads going up and down each day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    what relivence is that.

    this building site is 1 hour 20 min from dublin .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    The builder is registered in Buncrana, the same small town at the top of Donegal the quantity surveyor is based in.

    And according to the supplier list, the skimming plasters were from Buncrana as well. The firm that supplier the doors and floors was from Buncrana. The electrical contractor was from Buncrana. Did the whole village of Buncrana make the 9 hour round trip to build the house in Urlingford each day?

    So you are right, something not adding up here.


    Another interesting thing from the supplier list is that the client Grainne went for a Granite kitchen worktop....as well as the expensive wooden floor...even after Dermot brought her especially to the house in Dublin to show her she did not need expensive finishes everywhere.


    In the beginning of the programme, the clients were very budget conscious, did not know if they could afford the extension or not etc. Their budget was 200k. Then they got grant after grant and ended up spending close to half a million, inc the lime rendering at the beginning? And at the end when asked how much it cost, did not even know / could not care less? If she cared she would know?

    And another thing: the husband early in the project was chipping away at the plaster with a kango type drill on the inside walls in the old house early in the programme, and shovelling it out in wheelbarrows etc. A dusty, hard labour job not everyone would be up for, in fairness. So I assumed if the client were on a 200k budget they may be painting the inside of the house at the end themselves? But no, a painter is listed, at least he was from Tipp. so had not far to travel.

    Dermots glass box extension.

    And the question remains: who paid the Q.S. fee when the clients said they could not and CoCo TV (who make the programme) said they do not?? Dermot got her down for one day as a favour to him but she remained later in the programme?

    We have had Tuberty-gate, lets not have another inquiry in to shady dealings etc. It does make for great tv though : not so see the designs ( watch Grand Design for that ) but to see the crack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,732 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I think maybe it was meant to fit in with the rest of the sheds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Ah now if that fine Stone farmhouse was there in that family(untouched as Dermot said) for 200 years then there was old money there, you're goin back to the 1820's when the majority on this island were in simple mud or stone structures in the countryside unless they were gentry or squireens... No flies on that couple only dead wans, lovely couple though they were, I'd guarantee you, the poormouth worrying about the budget was for the gallery imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    As someone else said, if they were living in his parents bungalow for the past 10 years and she had a job as a teacher as stated, and he was a farmer, they should have been able to save at least 2k a month (if not more) , which would be minimum 240,000 after 10 years? Fair dues to them, I could not care where they got their money from. What is of interest to the viewer though, is the grants, as some viewers around the country are either renovating or considering upgrading insulation etc, or considering buying an old house to do up.

    The grants criteria seem to be not very transparent, what exactly did they get? I know of an old cottage (in an urban area, so no planning issues, and they got planning, and the old bit of wall was incorporated in to the new house on the plans) which was knocked except for a bit of one wall, and a fancy new Dermot Bannon Style house (although Dermot is not the architect and has no connection) is being built where the old cottage is : are they getting every grant under the sun too? Would'nt surprise me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    Dermot on today fm this morning was asked if the couple got all the grants they looked for and he said no they were not entitled to the vacant grant and he just forgot to mention it during the program 🙄 that’s the only one he mentioned but reading between the lines they didn’t get others looked for .. this is unfair and playing with the truth and giving people the impression they got all the grants .. for transparency they should be made to disclose what grants they did receive .. adding money to the budget because of grants they haven’t a hope of getting..



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    The whole production was a bit slap hazard. They filmed a bit at the start, filmed a bit at the end and stuck in a section looking at kitchens which was filmed only in the last month or so. Probably found they did not have enough usable footage to produce the program.

    The 200k for a 240sqm renovation and build was pie in the sky and we never got any more details. It strikes me as 'The Poor Farmer', who claims they don't have two rub pennies to rub together.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/dermot-bannon-received-private-briefing-with-department-of-housing-about-government-grant/a2091472117.html

    I know it’s behind a paywall but it seems Dermot wanted clarification on who would exactly qualify for this grant and the criteria for applying. At least he did look for the info and not assume people would be able to get it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    To be honest thinking about it, I'd expect architects to be up to date with current legislation and grants etc.

    The equivalent in my field would fall into your CPD requirements. I'm sure lots of professions are the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭GAAcailin


    Exactly, listened to the piece on Today FM and DB was saying that they didn’t know which grants the couple would qualify for so they just applied for everything…

    we did a big job on our house a few years ago and the architect knew exactly what was available; by the end of the job I too knew the grant system too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭hole in my lovelywall


    They either shouldn’t bring up the topic of of payment/grants at all (it’s none of our business how participants pay) or, if they do, they should be clear on what’s going on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,762 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    So was it a case of them not being able to afford to have a QS on the project, or was that they didn't want a QS reporting all the numbers on camera?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭Deeec


    I think the QS was involved in the whole build but they didn't want to say that on the show given that virtually every worksperson on the build was from the same Donegal town as the QS!!! That kind of thing doesn't reflect well on the QS. It's very hard to tell if this couple got best value given the QS chose her friends. Now it may very well have been a good price but we'll never know. I do find it hard to believe though that tradesmen couldn't be sourced at a good price closer to home.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Yes especially when they made it look like the grants were payable upfront to reduce the outlay to their budget. They would have had to pay for everything themselves upfront, then submit the invoices to get the grants.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,211 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Doubt the husband was that poor in reality, farms in Kilkenny wouldn't be small and the land is good.

    And as someone else said it looks like they come from old money with a house that size when most people at the time it was built were poor tenent farmers living in one room houses built from rocks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    the whole think stinks to high heaven. that journey would add 100-150 in deisil and tolls to each days overhead alone plus the labour

    if i was pricing a job in buncrana and i could stay there. so one trip. i would add 130 for deisil, 30 for tolls, 225 for the 9 hours driving and 50 for wear and tear . thats 435 just for one trip. and thats ex vat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭touts


    She's fairly happy. Let's see what she's like when Dermot puts them 500k in debt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    €220 k 😂😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,645 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Fake tan is out of control in this country, she looks ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭hole in my lovelywall


    I’m jealous of all these grants!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,866 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    30k over and Dermot hasn't even started



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,645 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Yes, looks ridiculous, do these people ever look in the mirror, less is more , less is more.



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