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can I run my car on Kerosene?

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    #32
    hoodie6029
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607819#Comment_121607819

    😂.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



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    #33
    black & white
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭black & white


    In the petrol shortages of the '70's and '80's, I know of several taxi drivers that had to use it to stay in business, they called in Rocket Fuel.



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    #34
    monseiur
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607597#Comment_121607597

    LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣



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    #35
    goochy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭goochy


    Don't encourage him



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    #36
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121608086#Comment_121608086

    because it blwe the engine in the car?

    70's/80s many diesel cars in Ireland? all I remember around the 80s was petrols



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    #37
    goochy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭goochy


    Just remember where people talk of getting dodgy fuel it usually means there is kerosene mixed into it



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    #38
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I know someone who had a home heating oil tank at the house and got it filled regularly. However the house was heated with gas. The big tank was only used for filling cars.

    In terms of filling Jerry cans from a fuel card account I know a bus driver who was sacked for stealing fuel card fuel. He filled Jerry cans regularly for his personal car.

    There is a difference between gas oil and kerosene. Gas oil is closer to diesel. Kerosene is used in most modern home heating systems. These fuels are marked and they do have checkpoints and they can scrape the exhaust pipe to tell if you have used marked fuel at any point in the previous months. They don't tend to dip tanks as much as truckers were using fake tanks and hidden real tanks.



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    #39
    Clo-Clo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121608244#Comment_121608244

    Dodgy fuel was along the border and was mostly washed fuel.

    Or in some cases people have been known to just fill the car with tractor diesel



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    #41
    tinytobe
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    if you wanted to cheat try heating oil for a diesel car, an older diesel car, but don't get caught. Salad oil also works, I think that's legal.

    Kerosene is the cheapest of the cheap more or less a by product of a refinery, just meant for aircraft engines, not for automobile engines. I don't think that's a wise choice.



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    #42
    beachhead
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121608206#Comment_121608206

    A lot of diesels around in the 80's El Richos bought them-not always farmers.My father had one,he wasnt that rich though



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    #43
    goochy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭goochy


    No dirty fuel also involves kerosene that's where engine problems develope



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    #44
    FintanMcluskey
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605416#Comment_121605416

    Seen it melt pistons in CR tractor engines



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    #45
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,385 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Reminds me of a teacher I had:

    ’Can I go to the toilet?’

    Teacher: ‘You can but you may not’.



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    #46
    GSBellew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭GSBellew


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607584#Comment_121607584

    Does it not smell, well like Kerosene? There is a serious bang of a smell of it and if you get it on you its nigh on impossible to wash the smell off.

    it is less viscous than Diesel, more watery, do not believe Dipetane is the same as it is more viscous.

    Northern Kerosene is yellowish in colour, southern is red.

    Can a diesel run on it? yes, is it legal? no, it is marked so the same offence as using green or red diesel.

    Is it safe for the engine, probably not, I know a lot of taxi drivers that ran on a mix of kerosene and veg oil, pistons eventually melted and engines died, but that may also have been to do with high mileage and no maintenance, they always sounded rough as you like though.

    You could probably get away with throwing some in on a tank, but that will taint the whole tank for a long time, in that if you are dipped you are screwed, so if you were doing it you might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb and run on green diesel full time.

    I was servicing a car before for a neighbour, changed the fuel filter and noted it was full of green, mentioned it in case he was being duped, he said he threw the odd tank of green in to save money, thing is it was pointless ever putting white diesel in because if he was dipped the green mixed in from 4 or 5 fills ago would show up anyway.



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    #47
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605747#Comment_121605747

    Why apologise?



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    #48
    cnocbui
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605433#Comment_121605433

    That was disposing of it properly.



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    #49
    martco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭martco


    I threw it into an old parrafin heater I fixed up a bit and it's going well good heat off it and really not much smell off it

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    on the car front, yah I think too much risk there as it's a later "greater" 2017 yoke I wouldn't chance it plus as someone mentioned there earlier you'd be as well going for the marked diesel I suppose in the end, I know exactly where to get that quietly if I wanted some

    regards getting caught, personally I wouldn't be too worried about getting dipped, it's been years and years (maybe 10 or more) since I witnessed a customs check round where I live....thinking it would have to be intelligence led or if its random stop surely its lotto territory odds

    question. re this Kero, anyone know why it's red in colour? why would anyone care to dye it like? maybe different grades for different uses?



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    #50
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭zg3409


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610643#Comment_121610643
    https://www.revenue.ie/en/companies-and-charities/excise-and-licences/mineral-oil-tax/mineral-oil-traders/fuel-marker.aspx#:~:text=in%20order%20to%20distinguish%20between,Marked%20Kerosene%20in%20road%20vehicles.

    Re colour



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    #51
    black & white
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭black & white


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121608206#Comment_121608206

    Yes, it would make shite of the engine. Re diesel cars, there was a few around, I seem to remember Passats, Jettas and maybe Peugots. It's a long time ago and memory may be faulty but I think that's right.



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    #52
    Ubbquittious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,371 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Kerosene has low octane rating so u need an engine with low compression ratio. Less than 7:1 I think



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    #53
    mikeecho
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    Just in case anyone is tempted to use Kero or green Diesel, bear in mind that as well as the dye, it also has a radioactive marker called ACCUTRACE

    That's what revenue check for, it'll be present even if the dye is removed.

    It'll also hang around your fuel system longer than traces of dyed fuel.


    ACCUTRACE is added to all marked fuel in the UK & RoI



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    #54
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,955 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121608279#Comment_121608279

    "gas oil" or "marked gas oil" IS diesel. It's just marked with 2 different indicators to show road duty was not paid and thus cannot be sold as DERV or used on the road. There is no difference between MGO and DERV in terms of fuel content.



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    #55
    GeneHunt
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    I seem to remember reading a news aricle about 10 ago, where a oil distributor delivered a large quality of wrongly labelled oil (I think it was Kerosene) as Agri (red) diesel to a big area in the north of England or maybe Scotland, and the fall out was huge. hundreds of modern tractor engines were destroyed. I just can't find an article about now.



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    #56
    fatbhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121608206#Comment_121608206

    I was a kid in the 70s and from what I remember is that there were very few diesel cars around: the first was probably the diesel Mercedes saloon cars, and the sought-after VW Golf D, which my father coveted but ended up getting an Opel Kadette 1.6 D around 1982 because it was cheaper. Peugeot had a few diesels too. Diesels back then were really loud and very underpowered.



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    #57
    GeneHunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭GeneHunt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121608279#Comment_121608279

    I remember as a kid, Customs dipping tanks in rural towns and villages in the 80's and 90's... Not just truckers had fake tanks, I remember a great story of Customs dipping cars after mass on a Sunday, and the owner apparently gleefully opening the cap for the customs officer, only to have the kid in the backseat, correct the them with a classic comment - "Dad what are doing, that's the wrong tank"!!!! He had the original fuel cap connected to a dummy tank and the "real" fill cap was in the boot.



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    #58
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121605432#Comment_121605432

    Ran my old Golf for years on filtered veg oil. Had switch over tank and all. However that was back when mechanical injectors were still the thing. If you try to run veg through modern I section engines they won't last the day, to much monitoring and self adjustment to be happy on veg.



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    #59
    John arse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭John arse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058330926/can-i-run-my-car-on-kerosene

    You’ll get great heat in the car too!



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    #60
    Ubbquittious
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121615253#Comment_121615253

    The government are well able to move when it comes to oppressing the peasants. The best of technology and no expenses spared!

    If only they had radioactive tracer on all the money they squandered on the children's hospital



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    #61
    artanevilla
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121615253#Comment_121615253

    Accutrace is not radioactive.



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