BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

Can someone let me know when this irrelevant rubbish is over and we’re actually on topic?

"Major concerns have been raised by the National Transport Authority (NTA) over the level of funding for the country’s public transport network this year, which the body said could hinder the rollout of BusConnects."

Anything happening on phase 6? I presume this still incorporates the F spine and the O route. It'd be hard to keep a lid on this one as it requires a significant number of new bus stops on the eastern half of the NCR.

I won't entertain nonsense about 'nobody' cycling in a city with barely 10km of properly built cycling infrastructure and a whopping 6% cycle mode share.

I never said that no one wanted to cycle and yes I’ve seen the canal. Your example about COVID lockdown is a good one - people did cycle to avoid using public transport at the time but in reality most of us weren’t going anywhere on any mode of transport. When the restrictions ended people piled onto buses and into trains/trams and cars but not apparently onto bikes.

My question is whether enough people WANT to cycle versus those who WANT a better public transport service. The cycle lanes alluded to earlier in the discussion are causing significant additional traffic congestion which is making the Bus(Connects) experience a lot worse at peak and near peak times. However since the new routes (S8, L25) started there are noticeably more people at the bus stops than there were before - far more than you see using the cycle lanes that have been built. In my view (unscientific perhaps) that’s telling me that people want and will use a reliable public transport service but don’t see cycling in the same way.

In an ideal world we’d have lovely wide roads where we could have dedicated bus lanes and cycle lanes alongside cars but on most of our suburban roads we don’t have this luxury. My preference would be to try to get the buses moving through the traffic and to use the road space to do that where available rather than allocating as much space as we appear to do to a very small cycling population.

In regard to this 44 being changed stuff, is the 44D here to stay?

Money is unlikely to be a barrier to construction in 2025. Politics may be if there is a new government in power but I would hazard a guess the government want as much housing and infrastructure as possible to be under construction as possible come election time. And although we're not at even half of our celtic tiger peak of housing completions, the scale of individual schemes is a lot bigger and denser, itll seem like boom time levels to most folks.

I hear a rumour that phase 7 (E spines etc) may start in the Summer before phase 6 (F spines), with O route starting in Autumn

fantastic

bus and proper bike lanes all the way from clongriffin to fairview. never thought i'd see the day. i would imagine this will cause years of disruption, people will go nuts.

i'm picturing the whole of the malahide road looking like fairview and masses of people wanting eamon ryan's head on a stake, it's going to be hilarious

E spine routes Are Ballymun/Northwood to Dun Laoghaire/Bray

F spine routes are Finglas to Tallaght/Perrystown, I think