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Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Everleigh Freezing Oasis


    Lowe was pictured in training (well, running at least) before the Ulster game. If he's not back this weekend then you'd wonder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Billy_the_Kid
    Master


    Bad news around Mack, he looked in trouble at the time. Big opportunity for all the other wingers to get game time. Would Zebo be in the mix? On form he would deserve the call up



  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Zebo has only played 3 games this season, he's played well but has gotten a lot more airtime because they happened to be interpros...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,362 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    There were some incredibly reckless clear outs in the Munster/Connacht game, leading to long term injuries for both sides.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Think Hansen's injury was pretty much the last ruck of the game as well. Got dumped on his shoulder.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,074 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Ireland has coverage in most positions, of course 10 is the most glaring but I think Farrell is doing a grat job giving lads opportunitise, it's not a case of wholesale changes, more 1 or 2 changes per game to give players game time, we were 1 score from a RWC semi final so no need to change everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,539 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Mack was one of our better performers in the RWC and is now out for the 6Ns, that's not good. How good would it be to have Conway now.

    We're possibly without POM too, another stand out player during the RWC, at least in the back row there is cover.



  • Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭ Everleigh Freezing Oasis


    JOB will apparently be out long term as well.

    I think we still don't know the story with Lowe.

    Stockdale to come back in? He's playing well this season. If Lowe doesn't make it we could have an unfamiliar face, Nash maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭CONSI


    Think the back 3 will be Keenan, Stockdale and Nash...Ringrose and Bundee in the centre and crowley, JGP at half back. My only concern would be the french wingers, who give nightmares to better, more seasoned wingers than we have and I'd hate to see Nash or someone get a chance and then have a tough game against genuine world class players...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    We’re in dire straights if Simon Zebo is anywhere near the squad.

    Keenan, Lowe, Nash, Stockdale, Baloucoune, O’Brien, Larmour all streets ahead. Bolton at Connacht has looked decent aswell.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I'm hoping TOB and Baloucoune get a shot. Little interest in seeing a Stockdale retread, he's not at the standard required imo. Such a shame Osbourne is out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Baloucoune has lost confidence/form entirely at this stage. He looks a shadow of the player he was in 2022.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,108 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Keenan is full back, Lowe hasnt played, Nash should be ahead of Zebo, Stockdale has looked good and should be ahead of Zebo, Balacoune looks out of form, O Brien is injured, Larmour maybe. We arent stocked at wing at all at this stage.

    Zebo shouldn't be near the squad but we are struggling there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭ljsulster


    Good job Stockdale is back to his best.

    I wonder if there is an international lifeline for Will Addison- We know Farrell likes him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    it is going to be hard for Munster players to find any sort of form atm. On current resources we will struggle to field a team not to mind win games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    We aren’t stocked but putting an almost 34 year old Zebo in isn’t the answer for me.

    Bolton, Shane Daly, even Rob Russell for some experience.

    In fairness to him, he has played decent in the two Munster games I saw he played in but he surely can’t be an answer. Would question his professionalism aswell but that’s probably for another day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,362 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    We're in bother for this Six Nations I think. Sexton is gone and whomever steps in for Hansen or Lowe, or potentially both, will be a significant downgrade in terms of line breaking and creativity. The latter are miles ahead of every other wing in the country for that.

    Lowe will be brought straight back in, I think. There's too much disruption to Ireland's attack otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,316 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Bloody hell. Given the way we know he can play and Baloucoune's poor form, Rob Lyttle must be absolutely kicking himself.



  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Our forward pack is extremely strong so I wouldn't be too pessimistic for the 6N



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭El Vino


    perhaps play Ringrose on wing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I'd hope that Farrell will give Baloucoune a chance in the squad, provincial form notwithstanding. I'd think his defense alone would put him ahead of Stockdale.

    Surely Frawley will be looked at as back up 15?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Billy_the_Kid
    Master


    Yeah I dont think he will get the call up in fairness but I do think we are in dire straits with JOB also out and I dont think Lowe will be fit for first match in France. Zebo could at least cover full back too.

    Would like to see Larmour and Nash in. Just not sure about Stockdale



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    We'll miss Lowe's kicking for sure. It would have been nice to have that to take some weight off Crowley for his first few games.

    And Hansen steps in at first receiver a lot for us. Basically they're exactly the two wingers you'd want with a young 10 taking over from someone like Sexton.


    I think Nash has to get one of the spots. I'd have gone with JOB for the other, but now I'm much less sure. Daly for the ability to play 15 could be a shout.

    Zebo makes more sense than I would have expected if we were looking at it from a purely short term perspective. I'd actually be happy for the guy if it happened but I think the wiser choice is to go with Stockdale or Balacoune.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    We're in some bother. Stockdale is limited. Larmour has the tips under the high ball. Tommy O 'Brien hasn't played top end teams, I don't think he's good enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    France in the SdF is always tough, our strongest team would really struggle to win this one. I really don't care the result of that game, I mean great if we win but if we don't, what of it? If we win the other four games, it will have been a decent campaign. Farrell should do an Eddie Jones and say he is beginning the process of building for the next WC (which in this case wouldn't be bs to cover for failing miserably).

    Personnally, I'd go with Shane Daly ahead of Nash in place of Hansen. If Lowe doesn't make, I'd go with Stockdale. Pity Kilgallen is injured, I would have liked to see him at get exposed to the national coaches, I think he has a lot of potential if handled properly. Wouldn't bring Zebo in, nothing against him but there are plenty of younger guys worthy of a look.

    We can beat Italy, Wales and Scotland in Dublin with a few changes from the RWC team. Prendergast should be first choice 6 regardless of POM availability. I'd also like to see Timoney rewarded with some meaningful game time in place of VDF (not that I want VDF dropped but I don't think rotation would be a bad thing for anyone in this case). Same applies with JGP and Casey. JoeMc should be starting two games. I'd love some game time for Osborne but injury may prevent that.

    I'd use Furlong sparingly too, Bealham can hold the fort. Constantly getting thrown cold into high intensity games can't be helping his body. He always seems to have to get up to a high level very quickly after a layoff, usually followed by another layoff. I'd like to see him build fitness with Leinster after the 6N with a view to peaking for knock out games.

    Other guys I like to see spending some time with the squad for familiarisation would be; N.Murray, Doak, Forde, Frisch and/or Hume.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭Zeugnis


    Small point of info: the game isn't at the SdF but in the Marseille Vélodrome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I think O'Toole is playing better than Bealham.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Can't see Andy Farrell going for Stockdale, his defending is poor and he's even worse under a high ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Larmour up next on form ?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,785 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Imagine it's incredibly open. Larmour looks in decent form thankfully but I think it's going to come down to the squad get-together.



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