EV Depreciation

Yes, it’s called the Internet, tons of articles saying practically everything about anything.

if you want to believe something to be true you will find something to convince you, even if you deity is a glorified milk float (god be with the days people spoke here about driving pleasure and engagement, even you had a few nice BMWs back in the day iirc).

Toyota are doing very well on the back of shunning EVs. They had a good 23 and well it seems have a good 24. That’s just a fact. EVs are not selling as well as people though, that’s also a fact.

It is a fact that the EV market is growing quite rapidly across a lot of markets. With continuing very large investments in EV battery production and development, EVs will continue to get cheaper with higher energy batteries. This will entice more and more people (certainly not all) to buy EVs. This rapidly developing market is one that Toyota does not participate meaningfully in. Instead they use "weasel word marketing campaigns like "self charging hybrids" and increasing line ups of "electrified" cars. They continue to argue against full EVs as being a solution to CO2 emissions but of course their air polluting petrol charging hybrids are the answer. They talk a big game on their new solid state batteries but are very coy about timelines for introduction and intro dates seem to continue to be pushed out to the late 2020s'. Toyota are a very large company with a lot of resources some of which they should be rapidly deploying in EV development. Shame on them.

the point of this tread was why EVs are depreciating more than ic cars. The reasons have been well established for this.

i assumed we were all car enthusiasts here, although I must say there is nothing worse to drive really than a modern car of any type, they are all fairly fast, comfy, but utterly turgid yokes.

As an EV owner of almost a year now, I think it takes a long time to get comfortable with long journeys to different locations. Now thats not a use case that not everyone has to consider, so it shouldn't really apply to everyone's decision making but it does. Dublin to Cork or Cork to Dublin is easy now as the infra supports it, very small bit of planning and its not an issue at all. Other locations do require more planning and it has taken me that almost 12 months to do those drives comfortably, mainly because I now trust the cars tech to tell me what I need and the esb ecars app in particular for being accurate about 1. A charger being in service and 2. if its occupied or not and of course its speed.

An accurate trip planner would be better than any guess/indicator.

The Tesla one is pretty spot on, not sure about other cars.

If it gets you home without running out, I count that as a win. One of the lads in work has an ioniq 5 and gives out that the trip computer is way off. Not sure as I haven't driven one or used one.

Isn't there a trip planner for EVs in Google maps. Or is that US only?

Surely you would concede anything will be more engaging than a lardy suv/car with a boot full of batteries and an electric motor. 😆

Guess we all must own EVs like Rimac Nevera, price being no object....

I'm with Chapman on this. "..Simplify, then add lightness.."

Not measuring the size of your battery.