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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,060 ✭✭✭political analyst


    It's still meaningful that RTÉ is broadcasting the documentary all the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It might be meaningful in someway but they are largely not arsed with it. RTÉ should be promoting the hell out of both for RTÉ2 and for the RTÉ player. This is part of the 25m spend in imported programming.

    RTÉ2's auidence outside of sport is piss poor. It has some great programmes put RTÉ are unable to in anyway deliver a schedule for RTÉ2 or promote them.

    Irish programming outside sport is negligible, 2 original Irish productions Home Rescue and First Dates and one live sports event.

    In total 13 hours 30 mins of new programming for a full prime time schedule (and I have extended that out until 1:30).

    No News or Current Affairs on the channel.

    This is next weeks schedule on RTÉ, It's very Red for REPEATS.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,270 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Mrs Brown getting another run out tonight.

    Surely get another airing before the months out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Why do you say that? There's a lot of BBC stuff that's shown on rte & on the player



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,060 ✭✭✭political analyst


    They haven't had trailers for weekend documentaries on RTÉ2 for years anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,060 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Because that documentary is about the Holocaust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Any trailers for that documentary or any documentary on the RTÉ player bar any Irish content that has aired on RTÉ ONE?

    RTÉ have a huge platform to promote their services. Look at the news channel. Promos consit sole of current TV and player programming. You'd think every now and then they might consider even a little ad on the News Channel for their history docs, or even a promo of their historty docs on RTÉ Gold .... does RTÉ GOLD have any promotions for any RTÉ products :) .....

    I wonder what RTÉ product RTÉ GOLD has only every advertised ... I wonder ... interesting .... I wonder ... what could that product be ...

    as they say "Answers on a postcard"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Kevin Bee is sweetening the deal for our rural / regional TDs.

    Sales of their Cork offices / studios, upgrading it to a new location in the City.

    Looking to Nationwide to go to 4 times a week and for the first time Today (or any RTÉ daytime TV show) to run a full 52 weeks.

    He's going down the old Virgin Media / TV3 route on audience figures "Both of those programmes, they're doing very well ratings-wise at the moment so we'll look to build on that initially" .... really how well and both have been on the air for more than a decade has something changed? What are the audience number between 3 and 5:30 on RTÉ 1 during the months Today is not on the air.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Expunge


    It seems that both programmes (Nationwide and Afternoon Show) are as cheap as chips to make and rely heavily on outside contracted companies to make. That's all. They'll hope to bypass the 'traditional' way of making RTE programmes, by unionised staffers out of Donnybrook, for this model.

    I can't imagine it'll be too long before there's a confrontation with SIPTU over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,909 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    ...and that is relevant, how?

    It's just yet another import filling space, which anyone who is interested had the opportunity to see already.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Are they? The Afternoon Show hasn't been on the air in 15 years, and RTÉ move Today back into the confines of RTÉ in-house productions a decade ago.

    I have no problem if they do that but you'll find that Today most likely has the same budget as Ireland AM and The Six O'Clock.

    Nationwide is a 3 day week, most of the content are repeat showings of older articles, ask any regular viewers of nationwide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think it is a wider issue. I'd love to see the viewing figures for these imports on the player less than 10k views, while RTÉ2 audience take a deep dive.

    I'd argue that this is more an issue of the marketing of the content RTÉ provides and its inability to do so.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,270 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    How about something for the under 65's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    An Irish version of Matlock to be developed by RTÉ in response to the aging crisis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Yes, sorry, I meant "Today".

    My understanding is that apart from the executive producer/editor and the presenters, almost nobody working on it works for RTE directly. Also, with most of the segments and even the fecking couches on the set sponsored, it must be a relatively cheap bit of TV.

    Also, I think it's a long time since a staff camera person or editing was used on a Nationwide segment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If both nationwide and Today are so cheap to produce why isn't Nationwide running 5 days a week and why is Today not running year round? When did RTÉ management make this epiphany?

    I suspect that Today has the same budget as both Ireland AM and The Six O'Clock Show. And that Daytime on RTÉ regardless of product placement and competitions is an expensive show to produce.

    Nationwide AFAIK comes under News and Current Affairs so I can only imagine the shenanigans on for that production.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Nationwide is/was known as "Red Neck Round Up" in the RTE newsroom. It was never taken seriously by the titanic egos (on and off air) in there. Now that it's useful to help repair the image of RTE in terms of regional content, it's time has come. I agree with you though. Far too many repeats.

    I think Today is cheaper to do out of Cork than it would be from Dublin as, I think, TVM crew the studio (I may be wrong on the company). It's all relative though, I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So the 2 main presenters don't live in Cork, one in Galway and the other in Dublin. Even this should suggest that the cost of the show is more than it should be, the guest presenters or panel are also often not based in Cork many are based in Dublin.

    What are the wages of the 2 main presenters? What are RTÉ crews doing in Dublin when TVM are working in cork. RTÉ TV studio must be dead most of the time save for the 1pm news.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Yep. I can't argue with any of that.

    It is not efficient at the moment but it may offer a way forward for future television production, assuming one could clear out a lot of the dead wood on great terms and conditions above in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think RTÉ run into a problem. This isn't a commissioned programme. Do they tender for Today in eTenders?


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Some gems in there. She's a master of talking a lot but saying nothing. (With due respect to her current illness preventing her doing either).

    "We've taken the revised strategy, looked at it, and on the basis of what we had done, we will now revise that."

    "We've been talking to staff, it's complex, a lot to digest, it's a plan that is based on no. of things - to secure RTE for the future, that's why we go to work every day, but has to be a diferent RTE, in current climate, we've had to have a refreshed report, revenue is falling, we've been spending time with stakeholders, there's a lot to talk about, RTE is complex, we have radio tv and online, so we have to get on with it. We're a proud nation of storytellers, that's what is at stake and what has to be nurtured. That's what the plan seeks to achieve."

    "Our presenters are ambassadors for RTE and they are very cognisant of the role they play, they are valuable to RTE and also to the nation. But I agree that people find it difficult on pay, but we have a big job to do and future proof what the world thinks RTE should be. This strategy is about putting RTE on a stable financial path..."


    She says one thing though that nobody could argue with (and this was 4 years ago):

    "RTE cannot stay as it is. That is the majority internal view."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Well there goes another Tubs thread, I am coming back here to post! this time on his new column.

    I was half way through my review when the close the thread FFS

    So he starts of by basically making up some boring story of how he was in London and happened upon Virgin Media and his good friend Chris Evans whom he met on TLLS about his retirment from BBC, then he goes on to say how they became friends and he even filled in form him on the BBC... after he left the BBC! I know he did fill in but he did that before the interview on TLLS.

    Then by happenstance he's invited to met in Chris while he's looking for work in London. He goes on the show that day... if you remember he tells a bland story about Bono. Then they are signing contracts in November, but sure Ryan leaves all of that to NK so perhaps he knew nothing of the deal! I not be surprised if Tubs has a contract with Paddy Power to do bingo every Wednesday night in Camden or some such place.

    80 – Ghandi’s (Tubridy's) breakfast

    Some quotes that make you think or not

    For those of you who know me, it’s no surprise that I’d be more lounge and swing than punk, but I was intrigued.

    and on risk taking

    I’m not the world’s greatest risk taker but, as I now realise, life is not linear and sometimes the cosmos likes to nudge the nervous.

    and on Sinead O'Connor and another bland and I believe made up story (We will never know)

    Sinéad O’Connor – whom I loved – spoke to me two weeks before she died and suggested I had been mugged by God in a hoodie.

    Oh my ...

    Such a Sinéad story

    ... so Sinéad!

    On where to live in London and that time way back when ...

    filling in for Terry Wogan, Graham Norton and Chris Evans on BBC Radio 2, I always stayed in The Kensington

    For the nerdy type

    South Kensington is central, nerdy and very charming. I thought at first that this was the place for me.

    The crime ridden streets weren't attactive enough

    I traipsed around Putney, Clapham and beyond until the crime thriller I was reading changed everything.

    on not getting the memo on JK Rowling

    JK Rowling writes a great series of novels with Cormoran Strike as the main character. In The Silkworm, he pops into a Beatles-themed cafe at a Tube station in St John’s Wood – the iconic Abbey Road is a six-minute walk away.

    By the way I watch Strike: The Silkworm ... absolute shite.

    On shopping in London

     But I am now very well acquainted with John Lewis, Argos and Mr Price.

    On meeting the fans

    said she was just off the phone to her mother in Galway who told her that ‘Ryan Tubridy has moved to London. You never know, you might meet him!’

    Oh the craic please some find this Galway Girl

    This was some craic. We did the necessary selfie to send home to the mammy in Galway and off we went after an amusing encounter for both of us.

    More advise on London if your going

    knowing the difference between Kensington and Clapham helped – there’s way more craic in Clapham.

    Naming dropping

    I presented a prize to Nadine Coyle

    and on how friendly everyone was

    Other recipients included Finbar Furey, Neil Jordan and Jeremy Irons so it was a great night. What really struck me, though, was how friendly everybody was.

    On not getting the memo about Eamon Holmes

    In fact, when I went on stage to present the award, there was a short film playing on screen and myself and Eamonn fell into conversation. It wasn’t long but he scribbled down his number on a scrap of paper and handed it to me saying: ‘If you need anything at all, call me.’ I won’t ever forget that act of kindness.

    He then met Dermot Kennedy

     A very Irish night in the heart of North London! I could see the city becoming home.

    Oh and then its just bland about the last 2 weeks... like everyone he's

    looking forward to work tomorrow!

    Next Dee Frobes' Diary exclusive!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,974 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Eamon Ryan stonewalled when repeatedly pressed about which of the funding models for broadcasting he favoured on This Week earlier. Kept deflecting about the importance of making a call "in the first half of 2024". Didn't sound like they're anywhere near a decision tbh...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,270 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    RTE were supposed to come up with a rationalisation plan. All I've heard so far is a voluntary redundancy scheme,a pay cap for big earners and a huge sub from Government.

    Might see them dropping the licence before an election I suppose. Doesn't seem to be working anymore anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,557 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Ordinarily, I would have expected an attempt by the government to buy the next GE by abolishing the licence fee and implementing some kind of direct funding but the Immigration issue has become a much higher priority for the government and it may end the political careers of a lot of the current politicians. This makes RTE somewhat more valuable to the government so some laxity by RTE in the imposition of any rationalisation should be expected. The decision may be dumped on the next government. Any sign of Forbes yet?

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @political analyst I posted this on another thread I though you'd be interest. that doc had less than 41k viewer on RTÉ2 last week.

    Top programme on RTÉ2 this week was Investec Champions Cup with 169k with First Dates getting 133k (Adults +15) last week.

    All other shows under 90k

    I though RTÉ2's Selling Ireland's Dream Homes was a repeat but I believe it was new, had just 55k, the only other 2 Irish programmes are repeats My Bungalow Bliss (71k) and Home Rescue (46k).

    Great Australian Railway Journeys had 41k at number 20 meaning all other shows had under 41k viewers.

    This is RTÉ2 for the last decade, meanwhile Bakhurst begins to actually look at where the audience is, well they aren't on RTÉ2. Also the only American imports on the top 20 are movies and the Golden Globes!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,060 ✭✭✭political analyst


    In a country with a population of 4 and a half million, getting 41,000 viewers for a programme isn't too bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,217 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    That's less than 1% (plus I thought the population of Ireland was 6.5 million)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,060 ✭✭✭political analyst


    I assumed it would be understood I was referring to the Republic, given that RTÉ is funded by licence fee payers in that jurisdiction.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yes and no, it is bad, RTÉ2 has a 6.6% share of the audience, that is with sport across the year. It once had 10%.

    You have to remember that not everyone is watch TV or Video or going to the cinema, we might have a pop of 5m or whatever but I'd hope that not everyone is watching TV even during prime time.

    I think the suggestion is that TV has about 1m viewer during prime time. (6 to 11 at night).

    So that 41k represents 4% of the viewing audience.

    And to remember that Cinema, online viewing and rentals are not included in these figures (back in the day I'd love to know how many people rented a video out on a Friday or Saturday night, remember the queues for the latest release!).


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