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Record homeless Figures yet again , now at 13,500.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    And that gets sent by whatsapp all over the world. Encouraging more to come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,613 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Many of these people have been evicted from more permanent accommodation due to anti social behaviour, drugs etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    Be careful what you wish for.

    SF are all about accomodating everybody who wants a house. Irish or anybody who arrives in Dublin. Zero chance of them delivering.

    But the process has collapsed. Adult children will live at home forever and in a few years these adult children will be having kids in significant numbers. So 3 generations in a house and nowhere to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Or maybe just an acknowledgement that not everything we do in our lives is subsequently the fault or responsibility of the state?

    Has anyone actually considered that 13.5k people in state provided accommodation out of a population of 5 million is not really a crisis and is in reality a first world problem?

    Knowledge is learning something, wisdom is learning from it, intelligence thought of it first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    We also have record levels of young people living at home in their parents home, people who will probably go into their 40s sleeping in the same bedroom they were children in....first world problem eh!!!

    What will it take to wake up the people who refuse to recognise the scale of the accommodation crisis, and it's long term impact!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,182 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    The problem is much much worse than the official figures betray

    Also we want homelessness, as folk don't want more housing in their area as it will affect the value of their asset/house, and use the planning system/politicians to safeguard their wealth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    While I agree that immigration is not the root cause of the housing situation large number of refugees, asylum seekers & immigrants are hardly helping the situation. So I think it's a bit easy to jump on the 'anti immigration morons' bandwagon when there is an obvious contradiction in the air.

    Again I'm not agreeing with anti immigration views per se but our politicians appear to play a cynical double game here on the back of the people - both those already here and potentials. I think accusing the people who point this out and say somethings got to give to be 'morons' isn't fair either. Of course there are actual morons for sure but overall this is a bit simplistic imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭Silentcorner




  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    His did the homeless figures keep increasing then during the recession, when there were very few immigrants to this country?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    All western countries that embraced free market neo liberalism has been destroyed by it. Neo Liberalism simply has no place for the working class.

    Whats happened is you cannot be "normal" anymore. Now you need to be at the very top, the rich tech developer, the business owner etc or else you are poor. I would guarantee all of these homeless children went into homelessness after some sort of eviction from the private market. In the past homeless people where either those leaving the care system or prison system or else addicts, they are now the victims of landlords, as in the 1800s.

    You cant work an average or low paid job and have a comfortable existence in Dublin anymore. Now those not in the richest 1/3rd of earners are forced into an insecure rental market through either HAP or paying full wack. In the past they would have either been able to own or had a council home.

    And then we have hundreds of thousands forced to live at home as they cant afford to move out. Or those forced to live in house shares as adults. Both situations are unbearable for those dealing with it. Hundreds upon thousands of people whose lives are destroyed because of a government and societal failure to provide dignified housing to its working class

    A lot to be said for a return to the old Ireland, where one could work in. a factory, a shop or as a clerical officer and have a dignified home. Now the working class lives with no sense of dignity thanks to our governments policy of multinationals over the working class. Not only does Leo and co need to be voted out, they should be in prision for what they have done to our own people and my generation in particular. No government has ever been so cruel to working people, its STEM or bust for Ireland. Normal people need not apply, if your a worker on less than 50k you are not wanted.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    There is absolutely nothing to be said for a return to "old Ireland".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,696 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    500 ukranians per week still arriving! So no wonder homelessness getting worse, rental and purchase prices totally insane and made much higher by our open door policy and rip off hotel rates too...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭L.Ball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    You must own a house, so this Ireland is a paradise. I live in the renters hell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,613 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    How many of the adult people on this homeless list have drink and drug problems?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    You need to start acknowledging reality before grandstanding on such issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭standardg60


    God love them, there's 2 million people in Gaza ordered out of their homes and moved around like sheep being told if they get killed it's their own fault and people in Ukraine going to bed wondering if a missile will hit their home.

    We really need to get a grip of ourselves here, but of course there's no chance of any opposition politician coming out and saying that we actually have it handy, cos there's no votes in that.

    Knowledge is learning something, wisdom is learning from it, intelligence thought of it first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    Not many. Drink and drug problems have always existed but the homelessness levels is a product of the last decade. Most are people who got evicted by landlords and cannot get another place within HAP limits, or those with family break ups, domestic abuse, had to leave family homes due to over crowding. In the 80s we had a massive heroin problem and a massive unemployment problem. What we didnt have was homeless children

    This is down to a neo liberal housing system going back 30 years, and a lack of social housing as a result. We put the working classes into the unstable private rental market and thats created a constant supply of homeless people



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I do not. Being easier to buy a house is literally the only thing better about "old Ireland". It is not insignificant but its rather easy to forget how much about Ireland was complete ****.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Whatever about Gaza, Ukraine is a huge country, large swathes of it never saw a missile. But if Ireland has an open invite on the mat, hell yes loads of Ukrainians will come to a well off EU country. Why wouldn't they?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,613 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    How many of the adults on this list are unemployed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Whom will you vote for, out of interest?

    And what do you think that party will do differently?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    Should unemployment be punished with homelessness? My god your a cold person if you think it should be

    The argument of the deserving poor v undeserving poor is a Victorian concept that created work houses for the homeless. Is that what you want to see? Evil evil people on this site



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    So we keep telling ourselves in a land of hospital waiting lists, trolleys, small businesses hitting the wall, people just scraping a living etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,668 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Surely homeless numbers the world over rise in times of economic woe?

    When COVID hit , homeless numbers collapsed as spoofers could no longer travel here. Thankfully for the homeless industry its back to normal now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭greyday


    I would imagine it would be very hard to even get a minimum wage job when you are homeless, it seems you want to blame the homelessnesss on unemployment while ignoring a whole pile of children over the last few decades have been reared in far less than ideal circumstances which directly impacts their chance in life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,613 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Well the reality is that a lot of these people living in these homeless hubs have been thrown out of their accommodation for not paying their rent, anti social behaviour manifested from alcohol and drugs and wrecking the property. They're all unemployed.

    They are also the most likely to give out about "foreigners getting houses".

    I don't see this as a cold view. I'm just being practical. Get off the drugs and get a job. Then you improve your chances of getting permanent accommodation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,613 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    They were unemployed before they were made homeless.

    And getting employment is not a priority for them. They live chaotic lives, fueled by alcohol and drugs.

    Often the oldest child is already living with someone else, the Granny or an Auntie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭eggy81


    Bringing people into the country with nowhere to house them has nothing to do with homeless numbers?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭snl rory


    I'll vote IND ,maybe Independent Ireland if they run enough candidates they might create a stir. Most of my friends early 30s are going to do the same.



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