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Three 5G Home Broadband - Speeds to good to be true?

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  • 13-10-2021 10:04am
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    Registered Users Posts: 26


    Hi Guys,

    I am currently with Eir for my broadband (fibre to the cabinet, get about 30-40Mbps), but as I have a direct line of sight to a three 5G mast, I thought I would try out a three sim and see what speeds I get. When I am outside my house, I have been getting 500Mpbs download speeds (20Mbps upload) on the three network. I have signed up for the home service with an external antenna which will be installed in the next couple of days. My question is, are there factors that could dramatically reduce the speeds I'm getting on my tests? Are wireless networks more unreliable than the wired alternative, or does having a good line of sight to 5G mast provide ample stability. It all just seems too good to be true and wanted to see if anyone here had any advice. Also, the ping time is 30ms with speedtest.net, vs 9ms wth with my wired eir connection.

    Thanks



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭KildareP


    It's good in all likelihood because you are probably amongst the first to avail of it in your area.

    5G on phones is still primarily the reserve of high end smartphones and 5G modems and packages are only really starting to be pushed in recent months.

    3G and 4G both had incredible speeds when they first launched but when practically no-one was using them, over time contention and oversubscribing saw speeds plummet at peak times (I can easily surpass 250Mbps on Three 4G+ at home in the middle of the night, but at 8PM I'd be lucky to maintain 5Mbps).

    5G will be no different.

    All it takes is a few heavy downloaders in your area to subscribe to Three and your 500Mbps could easily go down to the same 30-40Mbps but with far greater likelihood of jitter and packet loss.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,933 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Line of sight not always necessarily a deciding factor. Whilst 3 are making some progress on its 5g network its an ongoing process and congestion will be your biggest issue IMO. 3 currently offer 2 options re a 5g service, full install , requiring an external aerial and booster and they charge for this service or just a router ( not requiring a full install ) , my definition, if your requiring a full install , the fact you require a full install would concern me personally and in essence answers the point you raise about being in line of sight.

    I've had their 4g service for years, use a 4g router/modem , no external athenna etc , it's adequate for my needs, 3 claim 5g is in my area ( slieve bloom mountains) , a number of neighbours tried it and have since cancelled and went with imagine . Essentially the 3 4g service more stable , consistent with similar speeds being achieved on the 5g service. In fact they said, 90% of the time the service was 4g not 5g, the routers supplied handle both.

    I'd be absolutely 100% certain of a cancellation policy , I'm not questioning wether 3's 5g will work , just advising caution and I'd have to say Fibre if you have it would be far more stable.

    All in my own humble opinion 😌

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 26 andholm


    Thanks guys. really appreciate your comments. Sounds like I should cancel the order!



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,933 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    If you have an opt out clause might be worth trying but cancelling with 3 can be a tricky process , particularly if there's a physical installation required , but yes, caution to the wind as they say 😉

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭kittytwister


    Got a HUAWEI 5g CPE pro 2 from three about 3 months ago. Was getting a steady 70 mbs from mast 9 km. away. Two months ago the mast in Thomastown was upgraded to 5g and speed was excellent. Checked on phone and it was circa 100 mb and still is. Problem is that the 5g received by the router have dropped gradually down to 30 during day and 15 after 6 pm. I still see the iPhone 13 which has 5 g from three also has the same speed of circa 100. On ringing three, they tell me they are different signals, frankly I doubt it, can anyone explain ? I get the feeling the router has been throttled backl switched sims and yes the router sim in my iPhone worked up to 100 but in the router only gets 30. A customer service person in Mumbai for three tells me once the signal is between 2-70 it’s deemed 5g.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭Tony H


    Hi Three site says 5G broadband is available at my postcode ,would that mean a 5G signal would be available by phone as well ,sorry for the stupid question but the only other way is to get a phone sim with a €25 euro topup .



  • Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Jjjjjjjjbarry


    Just looking at this now too. Three seem to be the only ones offering 5G in my area. (other than Imagine who I'm not sure can be trusted?).

    Three 5G gold is only 39.99 a month with free engineer installation to put up an antenna. It seems a bit too good to be true. The catch seems to be a 24 month contract. Did anyone go ahead with it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    There's a thread on three 5G and ppl seem quite happy with it



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I've seen speeds up around 400 at times with it beside the router, just did speed test now about 10m away from router and got 200mb. No noticeable difference in performance between those speeds unless downloading heavily. Dropped once since I got it and had to reset it, that's in about 6 months.

    I'm very happy with it and was my only realistic option to move away from virgin and their ridiculous pricing increases. Its just as good as the virgin service and half the price



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    I'd recommend a fixed line connection over mobile bb every day.

    I've used most mobile bb services with a router + external antenna, and three was always the poorest performing in comparison to the others for my location anyways. I'm sure hardware and services have changed, but I'd still opt for a fixed line if possible.

    I'd rather have a solid and consistent 4g+ signal at 8pm, over a 5g signal that was 500Mbps at 3am. A solid fixed line is king!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    We signed up to the 5G Gold plan during the summer with professional installation. The speeds were mostly between 100-400 megs which was pretty good. It did drop down to 9meg for a full day in the 14 days cool off period so I ended up cancelling it because I couldn’t chance being stuck in a 24 month contract if it would dip that low. I chanced putting in an Eir sim into it to see what speeds it would get and they were far more stable than 3s and faster too- that was just pure curiosity, didn’t stick with 5G broadband


    theres 14 day cooling off if you buy it through three.ie but to be honest it was a 4/5 week ordeal trying to get them to cancel the account despite providing the cool off return number and sending it back to them.


    Ended up ordering SIRO in the end which became available the same week. No comparison.



  • Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Jjjjjjjjbarry


    I got Three 5G and am very happy with it. I've only got it at the window for now as I'm waiting on the installer to come but it's lightning fast and has not let me down once yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    "lightning fast" is not definitive, do you have numbers? Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Jjjjjjjjbarry


    Ha ok fair enough! To me it is. I had Vodafone/Eir 4G and was getting 0.3mbs at bad times and maybe 20mbs at best of times but usually 3-5mbs and always fluctuating from high to low. So at peak times, I could not stream in HD and d/l always poor.

    Now I'm getting reliable speeds of over 70mbs - 120mbs and that's with the antenna inside my window. When it's installed properly outdoors, it should be much better. I noted the worst drop was down to 30mbs but on next speed test, it was back up at 70+mbs. So the lowest speed was still super fast to me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    Great, please update after completed install.



  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    Have had three 5g BB for about 6 weeks now and it's perfect so far, high rates 450+ up and 70 down.

    Have the unit installed on the inside of the window frame and the router below it.

    Two people working from home, high use of Zoom / Teams video calls and stability needed for customer sessions. And half the price of the Virgin solution I had.



  • Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Jjjjjjjjbarry


    I find it brilliant. I'm also getting a ping of between 19-20 when I do a speedtest. I think this is pretty good. Probably nowhere near fibre pings but I can't get fibre.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I'm less than impressed with mine ,

    Had the old 3g three wireless router,they said with the signal strength in my area I wouldn't need a professional install and the oppo plug and play router will do the trick,

    On average getting 30 /40 megs no sign of any 5g signal on any of our devices instead were only seeing a wifi6 signal on the different devices



  • Registered Users Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Jjjjjjjjbarry


    If you got the Three 5G you should insist on a professional install. It's advertised as coming with free professional install so that sounds odd or unprofessional.

    Definitely should be faster than the plug and play 3G/4G indoor speeds, as you're getting the outdoor signal indoors. But depends on your location as 5G is different technology to 4G. If you installed yourself, have you tried various sides of the house to get the best signal?



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone any updates on this over a long period of time? It’s been offered in my area as an alternative to eir and virgin 100mb packages.

    Im sickened because SIRO is available right across the road but not being offered at my address.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    mobile is mobile - it varies from install to install. Personally i have better DL on 4G than 5G in my place, little better UL on 5G

    5G on ZTE MC801A

    4G on Huawei B818

    By the looks of it, my 4G speed is limited by mast capability(no fluctuation, regardless day time), not by signal/hardware, as its steady like at the "ceiling" level.

    YMMV, you could be in better spot than i am



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’m 5 km away from the nearest mass. Will do some more research. I just need something stable even if it’s 100 mbs or so.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    5km unlikely will provide 5G.

    4G feasable, but likely will require external antenna. Can recommend Iskra P60



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Yes I have it for about 2 years now at home. It's been flawless. Have seen speeds of 400 at times but don't really care, it just works.

    The above means nothing to you though because you don't live in same place as me, depends on your area.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah they’re offering the external antenna but 4G speeds wouldn’t be as high as 100mb would they?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    Most likely three offer ZTE MC7010(external modem) + T3000(internal router) combo - usually indicate that they expect 5G coverage. In areas that 5G not available they dont.

    You have my screnshot of 4G@190Mbps (YMMV)

    I should say i agree with opinion of cable better than MBB. As long its ~100/20 it might be more reliable than MBB and perhaps less hassle. Cost is the other aspect of it.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So if they are inspecting 5G coverage, probably indicates that they expect there to be at least 100mb speed. Some people have said they wont install unless they guarantee it.

    Wonder would it be any use for gaming and WFH I guess could test within the 14 day cooling off period, but seems a short amount of time to test



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do you do much gaming on it?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    MBB dont have "minimum" assurance I'm afraid.

    I do not game online so cant share experience in this regard.

    14d cool off is for online purchases only - be mindful

    Post edited by smuggler.ie on


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