"average Dublin house prices should fall to ‘the €300,000 mark" according to Many Lou McD.

The delusion is telling yourself that those issues are not real issues.

I could never see myself personally voting for them. That doesn't mean I am incapable of recognising other people's issues

As said, i dont know why. You posted it like it was some kind of surprise that build costs in two different countries would be different

Grenfell Tower Fire? HS2 is running about £50bn+ and the parts that would make it useful have been cancelled and for inexplicable reasons, the government are now selling off the land they already CPO'd for it. I could go on but suffice to say, we're not the only country that does stuff like this.

If only someone had gone to the bother of working it out and posting the result for all to see!

A couple of ways to achieve that ratio reduction.

Off the top of my head:

1) Earn more

2) Buy a cheaper house outside of the area with the highest demand.

3) Blame it on everyone else and demand "they" give you a cheap house exactly where you want to live.

I would guess that the typical demographic on boards.ie is slightly older than the TikTok generation

I know you mean your response as a tongue in cheek remark, however, I feel the need to point out that that graph was national...

But still

Earn more: grand. What if you can't? What if you're a childcare worker? Or work in a coffee shop? Sure, you can retrain, but we'll still need more childcare workers and waiting staff...

But a cheaper house outside the area with the highest demand.

Grand. I hate this argument the most. People have put down roots for millennia. Usually in a fairly small locale (20 mile radius or thereabouts) but this argument means that children get raised far away from grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins etc. "it takes a village to raise a child", just not in modern Ireland apparently. I live on the other side of Ireland from where I was born because it's what I could afford. I've lost friends, community, my family don't get to see my daughter anywhere near what we wanted, but sure, that's the price to pay to have a roof over your head. Madness.

Lastly: Blame it on everybody else and demand "they" give you a cheap house exactly where you want to live.

Firstly, how does that bring down the ratio reduction?

But seriously, never have I said that. There should be more social housing, in all areas. (Blackrock/Dalkey, I'm looking at you!) There should be social developments consisting of 1,2,3+ bed housing, so people can grow families, and move into smaller units once the families have left. People shouldn't be forced to leave the area they grew up in because they can't afford to live there anymore.

Because you were disputing claims of a lot of under 40's voting for SF and used your experience of boards.ie posters not admitting to be SF supporters as some kind of evidence that that was not the case.

Some of us can do basic sums.

Taking the cost as claimed so that the current cost is 1:10 vis-a-vis the ratio between the 1995 cost and the 2023 cost, then adjusting for inflation is 1.8:10

What is your issue or difficulty with that? The 1.8 is from the CSO. The 1:10 is what was given on here. The subsequent complaint was that the 1:10 did not adjust for inflation.

Are you talking about something completely different? Is it the 10X you are disputing? I made it clear I was taking that as given and adjusting for inflation.

Interesting point.

I think what gets forgotten often too is that the people paying this much for houses typically won't have much to spend after in other areas.

It's going to have a long-term impact on the rest of the economy.

Personally I think a figure of 300k is probably too much even as an average.

I'd say around 200k should be closer to the actual value of labour and materials that would go into building an average house.

Too many middle men and subcontractors making too much profit.

1) If you cant then you need to accept your lot in life and lower your expectations. Maybe you need to take a social house in whatever county they can find you one. Why should the alternative be "its someone elses problem to pay for my house in the area I want to live"?

2) Sure people have put down roots, but our population is growing, so no matter what any government does, we are all going to have to spread out. Thats just simple logic I'm afraid. Sure it would be great if we still lived in the 50's and you could live down the road from your parents in your own house, just like they bought at your age. But thats pie in the sky stuff I'm afraid and doesnt happen anywhere.

3) Again I think this is pie in the sky stuff, because, as I explain in 2) you wont be able to have people move from a 1 bed, to a 2 bed to a 3 bed council house and remain in the same area. Unless we start building houses on top of each other or just start culling all those pesky old people, its just not feasible.

Its super easy to say "just build more council houses in the places where people want to live" but reality is never so simple Im afraid. For starters, how much extra is it going to cost to build a 3 bed semi in Blackrock vs in Tallaght?

Christ on a Bike Donald. The poster originally said that in the 80s you could get a house in Bray for £50K but now it was 10 times more. I already provided the basic inflationary increase that you would have to apply to that £50K to show that, actually, the increase was more like 3x.

But you keep doing you.

Have you priced up the basic materials and labour before making a statement like "200k should be closer to the actual value of labour and materials"?

Because it sounds incredibly naïve to everyone reading it who has every done any sort of construction work or even had it done.