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"average Dublin house prices should fall to ‘the €300,000 mark" according to Many Lou McD.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Most of the work generated by Multi Nationals isn't as highly paid as you seem to be thinking. Most of'em are huddled up together in house shares. They aren't your competition for your own property. Very few single people will be comfortably renting or owning their own property.

    Like myself, you are always going to be up against couples with fairly strong careers and 2 incomes from'em.

    No political party is going to influence that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Lol. By far the most expensive hospital in the world, per bed. And the Irish state built it.


    The institute of chartered surveyors say the average cost of delivering a new 3-bed semi is €461K in the Greater Dublin Area. And SF think it can be done for 300k?

    Even in Pearse's own Donegal he is looking for top dollar for the Mica housing victims in his constituency, he will not accept houses even there could be built for 300k or anything close?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    The only thing that is probably close to the truth is the mental health issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    If the multinationals are not paying 100k averages, then how are people able to buy houses? Unless most buying have rich parents handing them 50 or 60k?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    A few posts ago it was all drama because you would have nowhere to retire to. Now a house share is beneath you. I lived in a house share long past been a student. Needs must

    As I posted already the whole story is falling to pieces and has holes in it as big as the atlantic ocean.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Also;

    if the state essentially nationalizes the construction industry to provide social housing, what does that do for those people who don't qualify for social housing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think I'm wasting my time reasoning with him.

    I can remember the 80s. They weren't halcyon days.

    Nobody ate out, we wore hand me down clothes, no foreign holidays, coffee was Nescafé from a jar, things like VCRs and phones were seen as big expenses, no computers or mobile phones, no such thing as designer clothes, holidays were a week by the beach in a caravan etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    In places like Austria, the cut off point for social housing is over 80k for a single person. So anyone who cant afford to buy now lives in a cost rental social home, the rich can still buy the private homes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Should move to Austria so.

    Honestly it is boring the amount of random countries get fired up as some sort of haven. If you think it is so great then go live in them.

    Nobody is stopping you! according to the story you are telling you are free, single with no ties.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Head over to LinkedIn and jobs.ie and find me loads of job openings with those salaries please. The vast majority of'em are less than your own salary you mentioned of 40k.

    As I said, and you quoted, you are competing against couples. Not single people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    A week, a f**king week. We got a day and that was once a year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    That doesn't make sense. People are not getting married or having relationships at the ages they used to, its all changed a lot. Would you say more people in their late 20s - early 30s live at home then own a home? If even the techies cant buy, how can anyone justify the current system



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Well it wasn't that bad.

    Lots of people went on foreign holidays also.

    But lots just went camping or caravaning by the beach for a week in Wexford or Kerry.

    Or they stayed with a family member somewhere. Or they went nowhere.

    But scrimping and saving was the national pastime. It's still part of our psyche.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I suspect a lot of posters think all builders should be mobilised by the Government to build only affordable housing. They don’t see the pitfalls of letting the State have a monopoly on construction, and the share joy developers would have at the prospect to access to such a pot of gold. Christmas comes every day to BAM.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    The government pension costs alone would cripple Ireland

    Was only poking a bit of fun but true, when I grew up we had one day a year at the beach....that was it. I think the first time I got on a plane was after college when my company flew me to get some training



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    What doesn't make sense? That most work in Tech isn't as highly paid as you were told it is? Who validated the argument that's gone and got you all twisted up?

    Stop looking for scapegoats. There aren't any. The sooner you come to understand that, the better.

    One whinge fails and you throw another on top. Look just accept that the market isn't setup to sell to someone like you. It's all based off 2 incomes. Every single part of it. I'm in the same fcuking boat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,004 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Usually small apartments in large blocks like the rest of Europe.

    "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others" - Winston Churchill

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Per the suggestion above to drive down the cost of construction, the poster is talking about compulsorily purchasing development land, then contracting builders directly to the state to cut out the "developer" and his profit margin from the process.

    If you cannot develop land and sell houses at market rates, then that is the end of private housing development.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    This thread is gas.

    "HOW DARE YOU THINK LIFE SHOULD BE GOOD?!

    GET BACK TO YOUR NESCAFE AND HUDDLE UP IN YOUR SECOND BLANKET DREAMING OF YOUR ONE DAY HOLIDAY IN BRAY AND BE THANKFUL FOR IT."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    What doesnt make sense if that if tech workers cant buy single then basically no one can. So it must be less than 1/4 of people in their 30s who actually own a house

    I have been really anxious about this because I feel ashamed of renting as my family refer to it as "dead money". But according to you Im not doing badly and should not feel ashamed. I thought I was on a very low wage because of the stories you read and the cars etc I see on the road. I was feeling like I had destroyed my life by not studying tech, but your saying single techies cant own either, Was xmas shopping last week and walking around every second person had a Brown Thomas bag which had me thinking I was falling behind



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    The guy thinks that Christmas shopping trips to New York are a pre-requisite for an acceptable standard of living for the working class.

    If you think that's a reasonable take on things, then it probably explains a lot too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    That's an extreme example but I guess you can appreciate things now more.

    The beaches in Kerry were thronged with Irish people back then.

    It was actually good craic. The likes of Ballybunion were hopping.

    There was plenty of middle class families who went abroad also back then.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The vast majority of what you are seeing there, is people spending credit. Very few people would buy a new car outright, do 3 / 4 holidays a year with money from their back pocket. The vast majority of what you are seeing their, is people spending credit.

    The idea of Dead Money is a stupid cliche. Renting Residential property should be no more distinguished than any other utility bill you pay. Heating is dead money, electricity is dead money, internet is dead money. Anything you pay to consume is dead money. It's dead intellect, is what it is.

    The Brown Thomas bag... You do know women re-use'em right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    No,I dont think they are a pre requisite. Im saying when I was young it was normal and living standards have dropped a lot. I've not been outside of Europe since I was last in America 7 years ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Spending 1600 a month on a studio apartment is dead money.

    Just live in a house share like most people.

    People spend all their time in their rooms now anyway so you barely interact with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    Ive zero debt, and did 3 holidays last year. A week in the med, a weekend in London and a few days in Kerry. You can get them cheap without having to take credit for them. I got a week in Gran Canaria for 550, weekend in London for 250 and Kerry in a b and b for 350. No need for loans for a holiday, you can do it from the monthly wage, its not the big expense people seem to talk about, and going abroad with the cost of food and booze you make it back in what you would spend in Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭BillyHaelyRaeCyrus


    Most people don't live in house shares. I was of the view we cleared the slums in the 1930s, and you are normalising their return. No way would I share again, its hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    You can live a simple and cheap life and be happy.

    Things like consumer goods and trips to NY are just temporary dopamine hits.

    Get involved with your community, volunteer with something, team sports, hiking etc. These are all basically free.

    Financial security though is important for mental health, so affordable housing is still important.



  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fado Fado, a certain father in could not understand how his son-in-law hated physical work and would rather pay someone to work around the house and garden the son-in-law also wanted the house toasty all the time no such thing as putting a jumper on. To the father-in-law laziness and wanting an easy life was something to despise. The young couple didn't have much money either yet still wanted everything done for them. The point is to an older generation the sort of lifestyle the younger people wanted was off the wall. n

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    It's perfectly normal to live in a house share.

    We still have very few apartments in Dublin.

    I think you've unrealistic expectations and are impossible to reason with.

    It's normal to sacrifice for a better future.



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